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  • geekgirldany
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 2359

    #1

    Enrolled Agent CPE

    I got my EA license towards the end of July. I am a little confused on the requirements since I got the license in the middle of the year.

    Should I be taking 2 hours of cpe each month until April 2009? I read this on NAEA website:

    For those SSN ending in 4, 5 or 6: to be eligible for renewal for the cycle beginning on April 1, 2011, you must complete 72 CPE hours for the current cycle beginning April 1, 2008.

    I am just confused on how many hours I need for each enrollment period since I got my license in July.

    Thank you for any help
    DAny
  • erchess
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 3513

    #2
    two

    The two each month is I believe only until January. Then you will need to average 24 a year including two of ethics but you at least used to be able to get by with a minimum of 16 a year as long as your total for three years was 72.

    Note that the above is what the IRS requires. I know that the NAEA requirements differ and if memory serves what they require is 30 a year. I believe that there is a procedure for getting a deficiency in one year excused and made up in the next year but there are only a few good excuses and you can't use this "out" in consecutive three year cycles.

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    • Uncle Sam
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 1461

      #3
      Ea Cpe

      Dany - I suggest that you contact Sam Matlick at NAEA (202)-822-6232 to explain the rules to you. In your initial year of enrollment, there are proration of total credits.
      In addition - if you're concerned with the annual 2 hrs of Ethics CPE - don't worry - the EA Journal, which is a bi-monthly journal of tax related articles, comes with a 2 hr home cpe - where there are 20 questions with multiple choice answers based on the feature articles in the journal. The May-June edition each year is devoted to meeting the Ethics requirement.
      Uncle Sam, CPA, EA. ARA, NTPI Fellow

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      • geekgirldany
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2005
        • 2359

        #4
        Thank you guys for responding. I have not actually joined the NAEA yet. I will go ahead and do that this week. I did not know about the extra CPE they required. But I can understand why they would. Thanks so much for the phone number I will give that fellow a call. I will need to buy some CPE courses I believe. NATP has some good ones I would like to take.

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        • ChEAr$
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3872

          #5
          Sam

          Originally posted by geekgirldany
          Thank you guys for responding. I have not actually joined the NAEA yet. I will go ahead and do that this week. I did not know about the extra CPE they required. But I can understand why they would. Thanks so much for the phone number I will give that fellow a call. I will need to buy some CPE courses I believe. NATP has some good ones I would like to take.
          is not a guy! And she's acting head of NAEA these days, temporarily, so her time will be at a premium I'm sure. BUT, if you do get thru to her, tell her hello for me.

          When you join NAEA, you also join a state association, inyour case I would recommend the Georgia Association (of course!). And you'll then get announcements about the excellent seminars put on, esp next May or June's meeting over at St Simons Island. See you there.
          ChEAr$,
          Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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          • Davc
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 1088

            #6
            Originally posted by ChEAr$
            is not a guy! And she's acting head of NAEA these days, temporarily, so her time will be at a premium I'm sure. BUT, if you do get thru to her, tell her hello for me.

            When you join NAEA, you also join a state association, inyour case I would recommend the Georgia Association (of course!). And you'll then get announcements about the excellent seminars put on, esp next May or June's meeting over at St Simons Island. See you there.
            And featuring free booze! (Harlan's buying.)

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            • ChEAr$
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3872

              #7
              q

              Originally posted by Davc
              And featuring free booze! (Harlan's buying.)
              You've got TOO good a memory! But seriously, here is a certificate good for
              one free drink issued this date to DaveC, valid only next Springtime at the Georgia
              Association of EA's annual meeting.
              (not valid in some states! lol)
              ChEAr$,
              Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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              • erchess
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 3513

                #8
                Originally posted by ChEAr$
                is not a guy! And she's acting head of NAEA these days,
                I didn't know Sam was a Thespian but congrats to her on the appointment.

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                • geekgirldany
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 2359

                  #9
                  What are the benefits of joining the NAEA?
                  I already belong to the NATP. Would it really benefit me to join another organization?

                  I was thinking on the CPE to go ahead and do two courses from NATP to cover the 16 credit hours per year.

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                  • Uncle Sam
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 1461

                    #10
                    Ea Cpe

                    NAEA publishes an EA Journal bi-monthly featuring a number of tax practitioner related subjects, AND, in order to meet your CPE requirements, for a nominal fee of $ 35, provides a home CPE with each journal. At year end, you get an additional two hours (for an additional fee) if you wish. Each year, the May-June edition is strictly geared to Ethics subjects - so by taking the exam with that edition, you meet your Ethics CPE requirement. Don't have to travel anywhere.
                    Each week on Friday afternoon, you get e-mailed an EA@lert - that is an update of tax related information about major IRS developments, regulatory updates, state tax issues, state licensing issues, news on EAs throughout the country, membership programs, state affiliate news.
                    When joining NAEA - you're also joining the state affiliate (as it's a joint membership) and have the benefit of meeting fellow EAs at a local chapter meeting.
                    NAEA is also an advocate organization strictly for EAs and is constantly in touch with the Office of Professional Responsibility, has a Government Relations person on staff to answer any questions relative to ongoing changes in legislation and regulation.
                    Also - NAEA is the only professional organization that has a chat board, just like this one where you exchange information with one another. It's a VERY ACTIVE BOARD - there's ALWAYS discussion on there - so you're in touch with EAs all across the country.
                    Uncle Sam, CPA, EA. ARA, NTPI Fellow

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                    • Black Bart
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 3357

                      #11
                      Dear erchess,

                      Originally posted by erchess
                      I didn't know Sam was a Thespian...
                      Please keep in mind this is a family board.

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                      • Black Bart
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 3357

                        #12
                        Dany -- EA/CPE

                        Here's a quote from the '06 letter IRS sent with my enrollment card:

                        "You must take 2 hours of CPE per month or part of a month for which you were enrolled to be eligible to renew..."

                        If you take correpondence courses other than NAEA, read the fine print because some CPE courses are not valid for an EA. They usually will say so, but you just have to make sure before ordering anything.

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                        • ChEAr$
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 3872

                          #13
                          A very good point

                          Originally posted by Black Bart
                          Here's a quote from the '06 letter IRS sent with my enrollment card:

                          "You must take 2 hours of CPE per month or part of a month for which you were enrolled to be eligible to renew..."

                          If you take correpondence courses other than NAEA, read the fine print because some CPE courses are not valid for an EA. They usually will say so, but you just have to make sure before ordering anything.
                          Because not all "CPE" during live attendance qualify for EA renewal. To qualify, a
                          course must be one that will enhance the EA's ability to represent clients and interface
                          with IRS. Thus a course in business law or computers does not qualify.

                          I attended a seminar for two days. the first day was forensic accounting, and that 8 hours
                          was wasted, as it did nothing to accomplish the goal.
                          ChEAr$,
                          Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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                          • Snaggletooth
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 3314

                            #14
                            Harlan

                            Originally posted by Black Bart
                            Please keep in mind this is a family board.
                            Bart, while you're on the subject, please be advised that
                            Harlan is a confirmed homo sapiens!!

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                            • geekgirldany
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 2359

                              #15
                              Thank you guys for responding. Thanks Sam for the detailed explanation on the NAEA. As for right now I am not going to join. I am going to get the CPE courses from NATP. They do have them marked which ones qualify for EAs.

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