SSN's

[lsmith]

I have a name with an address but no social that I need to issued a 1099. Is there an easy way to obtain this?

[OldJack]

Tell your client to go get the SS#. Its his problem.

[sea-tax]

how about have them fill out a w-9.?

[lsmith]

SSN's

Client is an elderly fellow and I suspect missing SSN belongs to a CNA that he hired. I know that it is his problem, but he needed help and I thought that someone here could direct me to a way to help him.

[sandysea]

You can file the 1099 with no SS#...you will get a penalty of 50.00 for missing number, but you can still file it

[OldJack]

Client is an elderly fellow

Being elderly is no excuse for anything. They call me elderly, but no one gives me a break for anything other than a senior discount which they also give to young whippersnappers at only age 55. Call that elderly fellow and tell him to get his act together and bring you that SS#.

[Black Bart]

Well, I suppose

Client is an elderly fellow and I suspect missing SSN belongs to a CNA that he hired. I know that it is his problem, but he needed help and I thought that someone here could direct me to a way to help him.

that you could look her up, throw and hogtie her; then take the number out of her purse. But it's gonna have to be done either by you or the old gent (barring divine intervention).

Too, I think the penalty's only $15 if you send it in by March 30th, although I think there's something in there about "correct information." But even then, I'd plead "reasonable cause" (nobody wants to mess with it).

[Snaggletooth]

Penalty

First, make sure the customer is required to give the CNA a 1099. If it is not in the course of a business, it is not required.

Then, if it is needed, tell the gentleman you will have to issue this 1099 without a SSN, and a penalty will be forthcoming. I'll bet he will get it or will direct family members to get it.

I have the same problem when the payer tells me, "Well, I don't know where he's at, he's moved off, he won't give it to me, etc." I then tell him about the $50 penalty, and then if he doesn't want to issue the 1099 I tell him he can't claim the expense, which is usually worse than the $50 penalty. Amazing how fast they can get that number.

The option of not claiming the expense is not really viable according to the law, so I don't want anyone to infer that I recommend this. But I explain that is part of the audit procedures, and I use the argument to get results.

[Black Bart]

Reasonable cause for Ismith

Being elderly is no excuse for anything. They call me elderly, but no one gives me a break for anything other than a senior discount which they also give to young whippersnappers at only age 55. Call that elderly fellow and tell him to get his act together and bring you that SS#.

I don't know about this quote -- I might just try pleading "elderly" anyway. Just because Jack's 99 and still (he claims) has all his marbles doesn't prove that your over-the-hill guy (85 or so maybe?) is a young whippersnapper.

[OldJack]

Just because Jack's 99 and still (he claims) has all his marbles

Thats an out and out lie. I have never claimed to have all my marbles.

[lsmith]

SSN's

The gentleman has attempted several times to contact her, but he seems to think that she may have gotten married. May have to suffer a penalty.

[gman]

1099

Taxpayer pays lease on land. Taxpayer recievies crop insurance on land and forwards to land owner. on 1099 's all payments made to landlord should be listed as rent--or broken down into 2 parts rent & insurance????