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  • SHUBEE89
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 25

    #1

    head of household

    clients son lived with her all year -he earned 23,000 and is 23 years old not a full time student
    can she claim head of house hold or has to claim single
  • New York Enrolled Agent
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 1531

    #2
    Originally posted by SHUBEE89
    clients son lived with her all year -he earned 23,000 and is 23 years old not a full time student
    can she claim head of house hold or has to claim single
    Short answer (assuming no hidden significant facts) No and Yes

    ยง2 requires either a qualifying child or a dependent - you don't appear to have either

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    • BOB W
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 4061

      #3
      I'm always confused: When can a t/p claim HOH without a dependent but type in a name and Social Security Number in the special area on a tax return?
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      • Lion
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 4699

        #4
        If she's the custodial parent but the dependent is being claimed on the other parent/ex-spouse's return this year, is one example I've had.

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        • BOB W
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 4061

          #5
          Any other reason(s)? The words "Dependent or Qualifying person" is part of the research. My confusion come from Qualifying person (not a dependent). Any other then what Lion stated?
          Last edited by BOB W; 02-28-2021, 02:29 PM.
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          • Lion
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2005
            • 4699

            #6
            My example would be a qualifying person. Table 4 gives Qualifying Person and Not Qualifying person: https://www.irs.gov/publications/p50...link1000220823

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            • Gene V
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 1057

              #7
              Originally posted by BOB W
              Any other reason(s)? The words "Dependent or Qualifying person" is part of the research. My confusion come from Qualifying person (not a dependent). Any other then what Lion stated?
              Bob,
              The way I read it, for HH, you would have to have Qualifying child or Qualifying relative in order to claim HH, a Qualifying person could be use to claim someone as your dependent, however, you could not use them for HH.
              TTB page 3-7 and 3-8 explains why the OP could not claim HH


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              • BOB W
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2005
                • 4061

                #8
                Thanks... I reread TTB and let it sink in, I hope.
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                • dtlee
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 807

                  #9
                  The point is there is no splitting of a Qualifying Child Ever! Except when there are divorced spouses and one is allowed the dependency exemption and the other can still use the qualifying child as a Head of Household qualifier.
                  Doug

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                  • BOB W
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 4061

                    #10
                    So that is it...Only has to do with parents that have split up and custodial parent gets to file HOH all the time whether claiming a child or not.

                    I'm sorry if I keep trying to simplify the code. Complexity is not my strong suit.
                    Last edited by BOB W; 02-28-2021, 09:37 PM.
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                    • Lion
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 4699

                      #11
                      We're in the business of complexity!

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                      • Rapid Robert
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 1983

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dtlee
                        The point is there is no splitting of a Qualifying Child Ever! Except when there are divorced spouses and one is allowed the dependency exemption and the other can still use the qualifying child as a Head of Household qualifier.
                        As a minor clarification, the IRS was forced to accept that never-married parents (not just divorced/separated) also can use the "splitting benefits" scenario. What changed beginning TY2005 with Uniform Definition of a Child is that others, such as grandparents, aunts/uncles, etc cannot split the tax benefits for a child, as they used to be able to do under the old rules.
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                        • dtlee
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 807

                          #13
                          I you have a cite for this, I would really like it.
                          Doug

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                          • New York Enrolled Agent
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1531

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dtlee
                            I you have a cite for this, I would really like it.
                            Take a look at King 121 TC 245

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                            • dtlee
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 807

                              #15
                              Thank you.
                              Doug

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