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    2020 Form 1099-MISC Box 14 Nonqualified deferred compensation

    Where is an amount in 2020 Form 1099-MISC Box 14 Nonqualified deferred compensation reported on Form 1040?

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    Tax reporting for distributions from nonqualified deferred compensation plans depends on the employment status of the plan participant. Tax information for employees is reported using Form W-2, while tax information for independent contractors (i.e., agents or members of the Board of Directors) is reported using Form 1099 MISC.
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      #3
      Opps... there should be a tab 1099M in your tax program under the general category "Income".
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        BOB W
        Nope...there is no tab "Income" in my Deluxe Edition.

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          #5
          Originally posted by taxmcp View Post
          BOB W
          Nope...there is no tab "Income" in my Deluxe Edition.
          What program are you using?
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            #6
            Ooooo! Your doing the return by hand??????
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              BOB W replied

              02-02-2021, 11:26 PM

              "What program are you using?"

              This question was in regards to a customer at my work another tax preparer who happens to be my boss had. There is an income tab and a place to put in the 1099-MISC but nothing from that box 14 flowed over onto the Form 1040. From what I read, the taxpayer should have had that amount reported in Box 1 of a 1099-NEC also and there should be an additional tax on compensation received from a nonqualified deferred compensation. However, what I read about this situation is almost as clear as mud to me.

              My boss said his friend told him the amount in 2020 Form 1099-MISC Box 14 Nonqualified deferred compensation has no effect on Form 1040. I'm not sure I agree, so I would like to know how I should handle this were this my client.

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                #8
                Originally posted by BOB W View Post
                Ooooo! Your doing the return by hand??????
                No, we use a tax software at work. I think nothing flowed over to the 1040 from the 1099-MISC because my boss either did it wrong or the customer didn't have all the forms he should have had to report the income or both.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BOB W View Post

                  What program are you using?
                  I use Intuit ProConnect Tax Online for my own tax clients outside of where I am employed and so far I haven't had any clients who have nonqualified deferred compensation reported to them.

                  It's my understanding the program at work is modified Drake. I've never used Drake anywhere so I can't compare it with Drake.

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                    #10
                    I tested it on my software and nothing flowed as well to the 1040. I've never had a nonqualified deferred comp before so I may have done it wrong. But how wrong can it be filling in box 14 and let the program take over...???
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                      #11
                      Have you looked at “Nonqualified Deferred Compensation Plans - The TaxBook Tab 29-21 & 22
                      Always cite your source for support to defend your opinion

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                        #12
                        i found this:

                        Form 1099-MISC - Nonqualified Deferred Compensation


                        If you received a Form 1099-MISC Miscellaneous Income instead of a Form W-2 Wage and Tax Statement, the income you received is considered nonemployee compensation or self-employment income.

                        Self-employed status means that the company or individual you worked for didn’t withhold income tax or Social Security and Medicare tax. As a result, you’ll need to complete Schedule C (Form 1040) Profit or Loss From Business (or Schedule F (Form 1040) Profit or Loss From Farming) and Schedule SE (Form 1040) Self-Employment Tax.
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                          #13
                          Exactly. Deferred compensation while the individual is still an employee is reported on the W-2, subject to FICA and Medicare. When the employee retires and is no longer an employee or is an independent contractor, the deferred comp is reported on the 1099-MISC (formerly) or 1099-NEC and is subject to self-employment tax. It's best to connect this to a Schedule C to calculate the SE tax and it would be an SSTB for QBI (20% deduction if under phaseout). Same as Board Fees from companies.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Lee Welter View Post
                            Exactly. Deferred compensation while the individual is still an employee is reported on the W-2, subject to FICA and Medicare. When the employee retires and is no longer an employee or is an independent contractor, the deferred comp is reported on the 1099-MISC (formerly) or 1099-NEC and is subject to self-employment tax. It's best to connect this to a Schedule C to calculate the SE tax and it would be an SSTB for QBI (20% deduction if under phaseout). Same as Board Fees from companies.
                            QBI.... Cool.....
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                              #15
                              Why is it an SSTB? Wouldn't that be tied to whether the source of the deferred comp is or is not an SSTB? Or, because it's now on a Sch C, it matters what service the Sch C provides?

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