W-2 Filing ID Theft

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  • geekgirldany
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 2359

    #1

    W-2 Filing ID Theft

    Client hired an employee who provided a SSN but it was obtained by ID theft. Employee worked for three weeks and quit. Cops came to employer's office and that is how he found out it is ID Theft.

    I am trying to figure out how to report the W-2 for this employee. My only thoughts are to file the W-3/W-2 with a letter stating that there is no number because employer became aware it was incorrect.

    Has anyone had to deal with this?

    Thanks
    DAny
  • ChEAr$
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 3872

    #2
    This happens sometimes, e.g. employer doesn't have SSN when employee hired and when tries to get it,employee or subcontractor says "I ain't giving my F****88g number to nobody; then walks out.

    Herebouts we simply reclassify wages as casual labor but still take a deduction for the amount paid. Same with subs.
    In case of an audit, employer simply eats the deduction.

    And yes, I do document client's decision on said treatment for my files.
    Last edited by ChEAr$; 01-24-2013, 11:44 AM.
    ChEAr$,
    Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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    • Koss
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 2256

      #3
      Missing SSN

      The employer's instructions for Form W-2 say that if the employee does not have an SSN, you can write in the words "applied for." I know that's not exactly what happened here. But the fact is that the employer does not have the employee's SSN. I'm not sure the reason is all that important. The instructions also say that if you are filing Form W-2 electronically, instead of the words "applied for," you simply put in all zeros.

      BMK
      Burton M. Koss
      koss@usakoss.net

      ____________________________________
      The map is not the territory...
      and the instruction book is not the process.

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      • ChEAr$
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 3872

        #4
        Originally posted by Koss
        The employer's instructions for Form W-2 say that if the employee does not have an SSN, you can write in the words "applied for." I know that's not exactly what happened here. But the fact is that the employer does not have the employee's SSN. I'm not sure the reason is all that important. The instructions also say that if you are filing Form W-2 electronically, instead of the words "applied for," you simply put in all zeros.

        BMK
        May I pick a nit, Burton? (grin

        I would be wary of using the "applied for" if indeed it wasn't the case. Maybe something like.. "REFUSED"?
        ChEAr$,
        Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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        • David1980
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1703

          #5
          Technically, I think the instructions say to enter Applies For / or all 0 for "If the employee has applied for a card but the number is not received in time for filing".

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          • geekgirldany
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 2359

            #6
            Thank you all for posting.

            Not sure about using "applied for". I suppose I could put "refused" in the box. Instructions say when using "applied for" you are suppose to file a corrected return later.

            Harlan, I could change it over to subs. It was about $250 in wages. Not much but the 941 was filed and taxes paid back on the 1st quarter. I could do an amended 941 but would rather not.

            Will keep on thinking about it.

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            • ChEAr$
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3872

              #7
              Originally posted by geekgirldany
              Thank you all for posting.

              Not sure about using "applied for". I suppose I could put "refused" in the box. Instructions say when using "applied for" you are suppose to file a corrected return later.

              Harlan, I could change it over to subs. It was about $250 in wages. Not much but the 941 was filed and taxes paid back on the 1st quarter. I could do an amended 941 but would rather not.

              Will keep on thinking about it.
              Oh yeah. 250$ is low enough to reclassify it. In a heartbeat.
              ChEAr$,
              Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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              • joanmcq
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 1729

                #8
                It's why you get the W-4 or W-9 BEFORE you pay them. And in the case of an employee, you need the W-4 before they start.

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                • geekgirldany
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 2359

                  #9
                  He did get a W-4, I-9, and made a copy of the SS card before he paid the employee. The employee had made up a fake SS card. He had stolen a woman's info and was doing what ID Thefts do. He is in jail now.

                  I might just go ahead and amend the 941 since it is a lower amount.... thanks Harlan.

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