I have tried to search this forum for what I know have been threads regarding PIN numbers for clients and ERO's but cannot get anything as PIN and ERO are too short and Efile and Clients are too common. Any help here?
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PIN numbers need to be 5 digits. EVERY client can have the same pin. The pin is attached to the clients SS#. I use my zip code for all clients and myself.
Not sure if that is what you needed................This post is for discussion purposes only and should be verified with other sources before actual use.
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Yup. That's what I was looking for. I know there was a thread on this a while back, maybe last year sometime......
So, the client PIN and the ERO PIN can be the same? Form 8879 instructions say "if the ERO is not using the Practitioner PIN method and the taxpayer enters his or her own PIN......THEN do not complete Form 8879." When would this happen?Last edited by Burke; 02-03-2012, 05:34 PM.
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Originally posted by Burke View PostYup. That's what I was looking for. I know there was a thread on this a while back, maybe last year sometime......
So, the client PIN and the ERO PIN can be the same? What is the point of the Practitioner PIN method?This post is for discussion purposes only and should be verified with other sources before actual use.
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Originally posted by Burke View PostYup. That's what I was looking for. I know there was a thread on this a while back, maybe last year sometime......
So, the client PIN and the ERO PIN can be the same? Form 8879 instructions say "if the ERO is not using the Practitioner PIN method and the taxpayer enters his or her own PIN......THEN do not complete Form 8879." When would this happen?This post is for discussion purposes only and should be verified with other sources before actual use.
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Sorry, I modified my post while you were answering. In addition to my question above, the Form 8879 says in Part II that the taxpayer authorizes EFT withdrawal of any tax due by signing this form. Can they not just send a check for the tax due, rather than have it withdrawn from their account?
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Form 1040-V is used. Be sure to delete any bank info in the file. NYS "REQUIRES" bank debit. But I'm sure they will cash a check.This post is for discussion purposes only and should be verified with other sources before actual use.
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pin numbers
Originally posted by BOB W View PostPIN numbers need to be 5 digits. EVERY client can have the same pin. The pin is attached to the clients SS#. I use my zip code for all clients and myself.
Not sure if that is what you needed................
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Originally posted by jimenright View PostI found a web site that will generate random numbers of any length. I had it generate a few pages of 5 digit random numbers. Each time I use one I scratch it off the list. I use a new random number for every client and spouse on every return I do.This post is for discussion purposes only and should be verified with other sources before actual use.
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Delaying balance due payments
Originally posted by Burke View PostSorry, I modified my post while you were answering. In addition to my question above, the Form 8879 says in Part II that the taxpayer authorizes EFT withdrawal of any tax due by signing this form. Can they not just send a check for the tax due, rather than have it withdrawn from their account?
A client can ALWAYS "send a check" with a Form 1040-V (and similar for state) which your software should automatically generate if there is a balance due and you do not authorize a bank debit. For clients who like to procrastinate, or owe a lot of money, this is a reasonable approach. "File now....pay later!"
However, I urge ALL of my clients with a balance due to authorize a bank debit at the time of efiling. That takes care of any "I forgot" situations. You provide the RTN/DAN just like info used for direct deposits, AND you authorize a future date for the withdrawal. A lot of my clients will just use 04/10/2012 so that if there are issues they can solve them prior to 04/17. My client letter even says something alone the lines of "a bank debit of $x will occur on (date) for your balance due shown...be sure funds are in the bank...etc."
I heartily recommend it. Again, many of my clients...as well as myself...have used this method without any problems. For clients who may balk, explain to them that most "checks" now are processed in a similar way - the company makes a "demand" on the bank (using RTN/DAN) and the check never makes it back to the paying bank in the first place.
And in view of what BobW said about current requirements for NY, I do see a trend approaching....
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