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  • BHoffman
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1768

    #1

    Really easy ESPP question

    I have to re-learn this every single time it comes up. I remember that the answer is easy but looks hard.

    Nonqualified ESPP held for over a year:

    W2 reports $800 in box 12 code V.

    1099B reports proceeds of $1,200.

    Statement reports option cost of $405.

    I think cost basis is: $800 + $405 = $1,205.

    Report on Sch D with a resulting $5 loss and that's all there is to it, right?

    Thanks for any advice.
    Last edited by BHoffman; 03-29-2010, 11:42 PM.
  • BP.
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1750

    #2
    Originally posted by BHoffman
    I have to re-learn this every single time it comes up.
    I know what you mean. Yes, that's how I would handle it.

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    • New York Enrolled Agent
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 1531

      #3
      Originally posted by BHoffman
      I have to re-learn this every single time it comes up. I remember that the answer is easy but looks hard.

      Nonqualified ESPP held for over a year:

      W2 reports $800 in box 12 code V.

      1099B reports proceeds of $1,200.

      Statement reports option cost of $405.

      I think cost basis is: $800 + $405 = $1,205.

      Report on Sch D with a resulting $5 loss and that's all there is to it, right?

      Thanks for any advice.
      I think you also need to note if there is ordinary income here also. Many ESPP plans offer a 15% discount on the offer to buy. I've had ordinary income on all the ESPP transactions with my clients.

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      • ChEAr$
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 3872

        #4
        Originally posted by New York Enrolled Agent
        I think you also need to note if there is ordinary income here also. Many ESPP plans offer a 15% discount on the offer to buy. I've had ordinary income on all the ESPP transactions with my clients.
        But said ordinary income is always included already in box one of the W2 form.
        So no problem.
        ChEAr$,
        Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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        • New York Enrolled Agent
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 1531

          #5
          Originally posted by ChEAr$
          But said ordinary income is always included already in box one of the W2 form.
          So no problem.
          Not always the case.

          BHoffman - go to Kaye Thomas's site www.fairmark.com. He has a series of articles on ESPPs. He writes in an understandable language.

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          • BHoffman
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 1768

            #6
            Originally posted by New York Enrolled Agent
            Not always the case.

            BHoffman - go to Kaye Thomas's site www.fairmark.com. He has a series of articles on ESPPs. He writes in an understandable language.
            "Understandable language" is something I could use right now

            I notice Kaye Thomas wrote a book called "Consider Your Options" and am ordering it today.

            Thanks for advice.

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            • joanmcq
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 1729

              #7
              Code 'V' in box 12 indicates a NQSO, not an ESPP. There is a difference to the calculation, although what the OP came up with is correct.

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              • BHoffman
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 1768

                #8
                Originally posted by joanmcq
                Code 'V' in box 12 indicates a NQSO, not an ESPP. There is a difference to the calculation, although what the OP came up with is correct.
                Joan, thank you for confirming that. Obviously, I need to learn more about these things so am waiting for that book. Unfortunately during tax season is not the time to study, and I'm grateful for everyone's help.

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                • BP.
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1750

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BHoffman
                  Obviously, I need to learn more about these things so am waiting for that book.
                  I should check out that book, too. I have a few stock option, or what have you, transactions each year, and it always feels like reinventing the wheel.

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                  • BHoffman
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1768

                    #10
                    Yes it does, and more of my clients are being compensated like this. Hope that little book is going to be good. I'll let you know.

                    That Fairmark site is great! ST referred me over there too. I had some dividends paid out of a restricted stock thing and was able to find exactly what I was looking for.

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                    • BP.
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1750

                      #11
                      Well then, I will bookmark it. Thanks!

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                      • Burke
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 7068

                        #12
                        Also, you said income in W2 in Box 12, so I am assuming it was in 2009. Also you mention 1099B so I am assuming that is also in 2009. If he exercised and sold in the same year, it is short term. Not that it matters due to a loss, but it would matter if a gain.

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                        • BHoffman
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1768

                          #13
                          Hi Burke - thanks for the heads up - it was short term, and I did pay attention to the dates

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                          • Burke
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 7068

                            #14
                            Only reason I mentioned it was because you noted it was held over one year. The grant date doesn't really matter.

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                            • BHoffman
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1768

                              #15
                              I was wrong about that date

                              But, thanks to everyone here and that Fairmark site it is corrected

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