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  • zeros
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 921

    #1

    EF Reject - Schedule M

    Got my first reject in connection with the schedule M. It turns out that he is receiving SS and also VA disability. She is employed full time. It said the amount for him on the schedule M is incorrect. He said he received $250. She received -0-. Would he be getting some stimulus from the VA also and thats why its rejecting? I might just have it mailed in. Any help out there?
  • taxea
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 4292

    #2
    No the rules clearly state you only get one pymt. I would suggest again that you have every client that might qualify contact their respective SSA or other and determine whether they got the money before you attempt to efile any client's return
    Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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    • Koss
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 2256

      #3
      Schedule M

      Take a look at the Schedule M in the return that got rejected.

      Which line has the $250 payment that he received?

      Line 10 or Line 11?

      If the payment arose out of his social security or VA disability, then the payment should be reported on line 10. But if he has a VA pension, then maybe it belongs on line 11.

      Your client may not know whether it's pension or disability.

      I'm not kidding. He may be "retired on disability."

      Also: does your software allow you to code whether the $250 was received by the taxpayer or the spouse? Could it be coded wrong?

      BMK
      Burton M. Koss
      koss@usakoss.net

      ____________________________________
      The map is not the territory...
      and the instruction book is not the process.

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      • taxea
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 4292

        #4
        Don't guess...ask the client to provide the information on a document
        Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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        • Lion
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 4698

          #5
          What Document?

          What document do you ask your clients to bring you? How long does it take them to get it? Please post a copy for us.

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          • AJsTax
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 629

            #6
            In nearly three hundred

            returns filed so far this year, I have yet to see a document proving what the client received from the SSA or veterans admin. We just ask and hope they remember. Sure we have had a couple rejects but we just fix them and move on. Not our fault.
            AJ, EA

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            • Chief
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 799

              #7
              Amer recovey and reinvestment Act

              SS recipients received a a printed letter from Michael J Astrue, SS Commissioner stating that they received the $250. I dont know of such a communication for veterans.

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              • taxmom34
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 732

                #8
                i didn't get such a letter

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                • Questionguy101
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 423

                  #9
                  I have always had very low rejection rates because I always double check or triple checks the tax returns. I think I have never had more than 10 rejects a year before. But this year my rejection rate will probably go through the roof because of this social security and Schedule M issue. I have had rejects because my client told me they have received the $250 payment but actually they have not. I have also had rejects because they told me they have not received it but actually they have got it already. (Yes I did give them the phone number and tell them to check with the Social Security Administration. I guess most of them are too lazy to do it and just tell me what they remember off their head). What can I do about it? Looks like nothing much.

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                  • okie1tax
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 177

                    #10
                    Schedule M

                    I have had good luck with having them call their bank and confirming receipt of the $250, when they want to assert they did not receive it.
                    I did get the letter from SSA myself. Wife then made a point to check bank records which is what gave me the idea.
                    One that did give me problem/reject was VA disability. Did not have to report income in previous years, so thought he did not have to report this either. And I had no warning, such as age, or previous years income.

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                    • taxxcpa
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 978

                      #11
                      The $ 250

                      If your client has internet access to his bank account, he could check to see if he got it.
                      My wife didn't think she got it, but I checked her bank account for several months on the internet and found the $ 250 deposit.
                      Most people don't look too closely at their bank statements, and would never question a deposit that they don't remember making.

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                      • zeros
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 921

                        #12
                        Problem Solved!

                        Spouse called and said that her husband (VA disability) received two $250.00 payments arriving on the same day. When I put the $500. on the left side of the schedule M and EF'd, it was approved. Why he received $500, I don't know.

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