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    #16
    No Financial Disaster with Diversification

    Bjorn, I not a mutual fund person so I cannot reply much there. Bob W, thanks for you conservative warnings which certainly are welcome and needed, especially when the market is going way up fast. I do want to point out that with industry diversification, there would be no financial disaster. For example, during the big market slide of 2001 & 02, stocks such as high quality electric, energy and water utilities continued rising up throughout the bear market, as did high quality REIT's. (Enron was not high quality) This countered the income stocks that dropped off (such as growth stocks that pay a generous dividend). If one looks at, say Value Line's section of "Highest Dividend Yielding Stocks" of the highest 15 stocks ranked by dividend yield (7 to 12%); one would find a diversification of various industries (there not all utility stocks as some might think), which creates diversification protection. Of course, one's portfolio would not be only those stocks but also some very high quality income stocks of a lower yield (example: Exxon). I just want to point out there are opportunities in investing directly in income stocks (buying directly the stocks that the income mutual funds buy) for a higher yield. To me, getting closer to retirement age would not mean CD's but would simply mean adjusting the portfolio of income stocks to a little lower yield and in turn getting higher quality, lower risk stocks that would withstand an economic recession. However I will yield to an old radio talk show host in Philadelphia years ago, Harry S Gross, who said: " if you have trouble sleeping or you don't understand the investment, then it's not for you"; so if CD's is what allows one to sleep, then by all means stay with them (but watch the small banks). happy investing! (great interaction here).

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      #17
      Investments

      John of PA, I am a firm believer in diversification on one's portfolio. And I agree with all of your posting. It is good for many readers to absorb and apply to their investments. But I've been burned and it will take some time for me to recover and gain any confidence to put my cash back into equities. I tried utilities and got burned. I tried some of the quality issues and got burned. My timing just doesn't work for me. My previous brokers do not work for me, and never did.

      What I never did was establish a Balanced Porfolio. But guess what?, my clients that had a balanced portfolio lost money too during the pre-911 and post-911 period. The moral is "when things get very bad nobody or stock is safe". It is possible that some positions may hold or go up, but I'll bet the whole portfolio is way down.

      Only a crystal ball will allow one to reposition a portfolio before a big drop in the market. It use to be that one only had to rebalance a portfolio once a year. Now, one has to rebalance monthly, or sooner, depending upon what general trend and/or issues are developing at home or abroad. It is just too much to deal with for me and I'll probably guess wrong anyway.

      Ah!, now daytrading has some flavor. With global stock markets, there is 24 hour trading and one can watch daily trends as each time zone passes around the Earth. This type of trading is good for about 2 hrs before you need to get out of whatever you just bought. You know what?, I just don't have the time nor the inclination to go that route anymore.

      So I'm happy at 62 to get the best interest I can and put 10% of my cash in an options fund that a client of mine operates. He had a 13% overall fund growth this year. Next year, who knows.

      Again, thanks for reading my ramblings and it would be great to be young again when one has time to make up any losses incurred in the equities game.

      I now like real estate. I just sold my third piece of investment property with one more to go. I made up all my losses in the stock market and enough to start thinking about retirement or at least to slow down.
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        #18
        Relying on brokers

        Relying on stock brokers never worked for me either. I even tried them after they changed their names from stock brokers to account executive, or financial specialist; and still I could not rely on them, as they are under pressure by those who they report to. I do find Valueline and Mornignstar solid information (which yes is based on assumptions of unknown criteria) of which an intelligent decision can be made. As for Real Estate, I agree i'ts almost a "you can't go wrong" investment"; that is if you have the patience to deal with tenants and you can financialy handle the negative cash flow. You don't make your money until you sell, but I can't argue that the returns I've seen on real estate are hard to beat. Age? I'am right behind you and taking notes.

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          #19
          Daytrading

          John, I just did a buy/sell trade today and after 3 hrs I made $28 net... Wow.............
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            #20
            Day Trader

            Well Bob, at least you made a profit for the day, even tho it averages about $9.33 per hour. Look at it this way, for all your efforts you did not lose any $ today.

            By the way, what firm do you use to Day Trade? Can you share? I have looked at maybe doing this, but really apprehensive, I am so conservative. CD's, and real estate! Altho I like the thought of the equities, posted above by John PA. I have seen some of my clients do this, and they have done well.

            Sandy

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              #21
              Day Trading

              Sandy, I only trade QQQQ. QQQQ is the Nasdaq 100 Composit Index. It generally mimics the Nasdaq stock exchange. Although QQQQ sometimes does better during the day than the Exchange. Those are the days when I really like to day trade.

              I use Fidelity's Active Trade Pro which gives me "Streaming Info" of all activity as it is happening. This allows me to react very quickly when trends change. Some days I stay away from the market, like when no clear trend can be established. When the trend is down, I have "shorted" my trades, but I have only done this on a couple of occasions and should do more of this type of trading.

              Day trading is very dangerous for the inexperience. One needs to play with this concept "offline", so to say, for many months before going "online". The odds of having a profit and the end of the year are very small. Day trading is gambling and there is a tendency to trade when you shouldn't. If you plan on trading, take your time and pick your days based on experience and not on available time.

              By the way, 99.9% of the time I have sold all shares by the end of the day. Guessing where the market will be the next day is not part of being a day trader.
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                #22
                Day Trading

                Just a note to Sandy. I want to be clear that my positive experience with equities has been long-term trading only. Short-term trading or day trading for me would not work as from what I have seen from client, it takes a lot of time. One day trade client started 7:00am every morning till about 9:00 just studying that days commentaries. Like Bob W he was in positions less than a day. Also he paid about 350/month for real-time quotes, as delayed quotes (such as on Yahoo Finance) would not work too well with day trading. Be Careful.

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                  #23
                  Day Trading

                  Fidelity gives Streaming info free, but you have to earn it first. I think it is 60 trades over a one year period, it could be less.
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                    #24
                    Online Trading

                    I know you can trade online via H&R Block Financial Advisors, both with and without their research. Don't know any details beyond that, though. Just have heard bits and pieces when the FAs talk to clients about online trading. They were the old Olde Discount Brokers before HRB purchased that firm. HRB's president was from American Express, so his intent was to offer similar services to AmEx but at the Olde Discount fee structure.

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                      #25
                      Day Trading

                      You may want to check out- www.mrswing.com -he offers free level II streaming, for a period of time, as well as assistance picking stocks short term and long term.
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