10% Withdrawal IRA Penalty/Gambling Loss

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  • gamblerswife
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 3

    #1

    10% Withdrawal IRA Penalty/Gambling Loss

    Some advice please. Last year my spouse made several huge withdrawals from our IRA without my knowledge. Now are are processing our taxes and will be hit with the 10% penalty plus income taxes. We will owe a HUGE amount that we do not have. Do I need to protect my 401k? What is my liability as his wife?
  • Burke
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 7068

    #2
    Originally posted by gamblerswife
    Some advice please. Last year my spouse made several huge withdrawals from our IRA without my knowledge. Now are are processing our taxes and will be hit with the 10% penalty plus income taxes. We will owe a HUGE amount that we do not have. Do I need to protect my 401k? What is my liability as his wife?
    This is a legal question and you may want to get advice from an attorney. IRA's and 401k's are not in joint names, for one thing. If they are in his name, he has the right to withdraw funds (maybe borrow from the 401k if he is still working). If they are in your name, only you can sign to withdraw funds. The tax liability is joint if you file a joint return, unless you can qualify under the injured spouse rules. You may wish to consider filing separately this year. See a tax professional and/or an attorney as mentioned above.

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    • Bees Knees
      Senior Member
      • May 2005
      • 5456

      #3
      Agreed.

      File a separate return and let the pond scum fend for himself. Unless of course you are trying to enable him to continue to hurt you with his addiction.

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      • gamblerswife
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 3

        #4
        Thank you both for your excellent advice. The IRA was in both names so he was able to make withdrawals without my knowledge/signature; however the 401k is in my name only through my employer. I don't want the IRS to put a lien on it to pay off the huge amount we will owe because of his stupidity. I will get legal advice. Thanks again.

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        • veritas
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3290

          #5
          The IRA

          was not and is not in both your names.

          An IRA is an INDIVIDUAL Retirement account.

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          • Burke
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 7068

            #6
            Originally posted by gamblerswife
            Thank you both for your excellent advice. The IRA was in both names so he was able to make withdrawals without my knowledge/signature; however the 401k is in my name only through my employer. I don't want the IRS to put a lien on it to pay off the huge amount we will owe because of his stupidity. I will get legal advice. Thanks again.
            You are misinformed. An IRA cannot be in both names. You may have had a joint account but if so, it was not an IRA. Regardless, the point of filing separately is so that you are only responsible for your income, deductions, and tax liability.

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            • Lion
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 4699

              #7
              Seek Help

              As well as talking to a lawyer (make sure marital law is one of his strengths), please find a program comparable to Al-Anon for spouses of gamblers. I'm sure you'll find lots of practical advice and emotional support. But, don't forget to see that lawyer. Good luck. Oh, and the IRS offers payment plans; so your husband can work out his own tax payments on his own married filing separately tax return.

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              • gamblerswife
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 3

                #8
                Thank you all for the advice. Yes, I misspoke when I said the IRA was in both names - it is in his name only. I also did attend Gam-Anon meetings for families of gamblers and the group was extremely helpful and supportive.

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                • Lion
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 4699

                  #9
                  Keep up the good work...

                  Keep attending. It's helpful to have a support group of those who have been there, done that. I was married to an alcoholic for many years. It's not easy getting out, separating your finances and lives, especially when children keep you connected forever. It's worth the price of that lawyer.

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