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  • BHoffman
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1768

    #16
    Mom is the custodial parent. Daughter lives with her full time. Daughter is too old for child tax credit, and no EIC applies here.

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    • taxea
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 4292

      #17
      Look at the charts and examples starting on page 3-16 taxea
      Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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      • Jesse
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 2064

        #18
        Originally posted by BHoffman
        Taxpayer (Mom) is unmarried. Daughter is 19, single, and a full time (still in high school, no tuition paid) student. Daughter lives with TP and has no earned income. TP provides all support for Daughter.

        2008 is Dad's year to claim daughter as a dependent. Per the divorce decree, they alternate years.

        Can Mom file as HOH?

        I'm pretty sure the answer is yes based on TTB, but still would like some reassurance.

        Thanks!
        BHoffman, I also would conclude the answer to be yes, for HOH.

        But thinking out loud - once the daughter is beyond the minor status (age 19) I don't think you can use Form 8332 to allow the noncustodial parent to take the dependency deduction, Form 8332 applies only to minor children.

        I may be incorrect or there may be an exception because the daughter is still in highschool?
        http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

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        • BHoffman
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1768

          #19
          Jesse - you may be right. My sister is Mom in this case, so I'm fully aware of the living arrangements and both Mom and Dad are in sync. I like form 8332 for clients when I'm not so sure.

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          • taxea
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 4292

            #20
            The custodial parent must provide F8332 to the non-custodial parent each year that the nc parent takes the child as a dependent. The custodial parent claims HH every year. taxea
            Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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            • Jesse
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2005
              • 2064

              #21
              Originally posted by taxea
              The custodial parent must provide F8332 to the non-custodial parent each year that the nc parent takes the child as a dependent. The custodial parent claims HH every year. taxea
              Yes, I am just trying to point out that if the child is no longer considered a minor child custody is no longer an issue, there is no longer a custodial and noncustodial parent. The child is either a qualifying child/qualifying relative or not and the Form 8332 cannot be used.
              http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

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              • BHoffman
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 1768

                #22
                You guys are awesome! I learn something new every day here.

                I think 19 years old = qualifying relative instead of qualifying child. I agree about the 8332 as this would apply to QC and not QR.

                Thanks again, very much!

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                • Davc
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1088

                  #23
                  [QUOTE=BHoffman;70344

                  I think 19 years old = qualifying relative instead of qualifying child. [/QUOTE]

                  Not if she's a full time student.

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                  • BHoffman
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1768

                    #24
                    OK, Thanks Dave. The main thing is whether Sis can file HOH or not. Sounds like she can.

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                    • taxea
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 4292

                      #25
                      One very important rule is that the taxpayer legally claiming the dependent cannot file HH if he/she lives with another income producing adult...i.e. boy/girlfriend, parent, roommate, etc.

                      I find that this, often times, gets overlooked. taxea
                      Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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                      • Jesse
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 2064

                        #26
                        Originally posted by taxea
                        One very important rule is that the taxpayer legally claiming the dependent cannot file HH if he/she lives with another income producing adult...i.e. boy/girlfriend, parent, roommate, etc.

                        I find that this, often times, gets overlooked. taxea
                        Wouldn't that be a "facts and circumstance" decision? It would depend on how much income the other adult produces and who actually pays over half the cost to keep up the home.
                        Last edited by Jesse; 01-06-2009, 04:11 PM. Reason: Puncuation
                        http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

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                        • taxea
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 4292

                          #27
                          "Wouldn't that be a "facts and circumstance" decision? It would depend on how much income the other adult produces and who actually pays over half the cost to keep up the home."

                          No, the rules are quite clear. taxea
                          Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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                          • Jesse
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 2064

                            #28
                            If taxpayer, taxpayers qualifying child and taxpayers father all live together, taxpayer pays over 1/2 cost of keeping up a home and taxpayers father had wages of $4,000 why wouldn't taxpayer be eligible to file head of household?
                            http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

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                            • taxea
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4292

                              #29
                              Jesse
                              I'm sorry to be so blunt but, it doesn't appear that you are paying attention to what you are reading. There are very specific restraints on who can file HH and they are very clearly stated in the examples in The Tax Book. taxea
                              Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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                              • David1980
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 1703

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jesse
                                If taxpayer, taxpayers qualifying child and taxpayers father all live together, taxpayer pays over 1/2 cost of keeping up a home and taxpayers father had wages of $4,000 why wouldn't taxpayer be eligible to file head of household?
                                I can't find anything in the tax book that would disallow HOH for the TP. Perhaps I'm missing that page...

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