brave new world

[TaxBird]

[QUOTE=erchess;38704]some posts in this thread suggesting that Jose Padilla is innocent of wrongdoing and that he was tortured.

As to the innocent of wrongdoing, I vaguely remember a fellow who was tried for having been part of the 9/11 Plot when the best evidence suggested that the real plotters viewed him as too unstable to be part of what they were doing. Is that Padilla?

/QUOTE]


No. I believe that was Zaccarious Massoui (sp?).

[Davc]

[QUOTE=TaxBird;38724]

some posts in this thread suggesting that Jose Padilla is innocent of wrongdoing and that he was tortured.

As to the innocent of wrongdoing, I vaguely remember a fellow who was tried for having been part of the 9/11 Plot when the best evidence suggested that the real plotters viewed him as too unstable to be part of what they were doing. Is that Padilla?

/QUOTE]


No. I believe that was Zaccarious Massoui (sp?).

Wrong, that was Rosi O'Donell.

[TaxBird]

[QUOTE=Davc;38725]

Wrong, that was Rosi O'Donell.

I would have responded with just a smiley - but that would be most likely be too short to post.

Thanks for the welcome injection of humor. I was bumming myself out.

[veritas]

Really?

Who said this?

"Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms ... The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard, against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible."

Just a followup. Since no one guessed. The author is Hubert H. Humphrey.

[George Boutwell]

Just a followup. Since no one guessed. The author is Hubert H. Humphrey.

Just so no one has to guess about the part you left out with the convenient ellipsis, here it is:

"This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced."

[veritas]

Just so no one has to guess about the part you left out with the convenient ellipsis, here it is:

"This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced."

Well, I can't disagree with that either. Like criminals not having guns. Let's enforce that.

[Bees Knees]

Like criminals not having guns. Let's enforce that.

Maybe if we impose a penalty tax on criminals for using guns in a crime, then the behavior of criminals will change and we can all hold hands and hug a tree and celebrate peace on earth.

[veritas]

You can hug a tree

I will hug my assault rifle.

[jainen]

I prefer sarcasm

>>the behavior of criminals will change and we can all hold hands<<

I prefer sarcasm that is used to reveal a truth, not to hide one. What turns a robbery into a homicide is not the criminal's behavior. It is the gun.

[Bees Knees]

What turns a robbery into a homicide is not the criminal's behavior. It is the gun.

No, it's the bullet that hits a vital organ.

Put a penalty tax on bullets that are to be used in a homicide, and any murderer will think twice before pulling the trigger.

[Joe Btfsplk]

Liquor has killed more men than bullets

Liquor has killed more men than bullets.

But, I would rather be full of liquor than full of bullets.

[bertrans]

new penalties

Everybody get a grip. Consider the Alternative Minimum Tax. Do you seriously think that Congress 'forgot' to index the exemption amount for inflation??? Is it a mere coincidence that the AMT is projected to bring into the Treasury, within the next 10 years, ONE TRILLION dollars? Do you, really?

[Joe Btfsplk]

Just a followup. Since no one guessed. The author is Hubert H. Humphrey.

Hubert Who?

[George Boutwell]

Oh ye of great faith

Consider the Alternative Minimum Tax. Do you seriously think that Congress 'forgot' to index the exemption amount for inflation???

Do you seriously think that a majority of Members of Congress gave any serious thought to this question? That they even read what they were voting on?

[George Boutwell]

Had something to do with butterflies

Hubert Who?

I think he meant Humbert Humbert. Character in a Nabokov novel.