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  • Acownt4it
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2005
    • 274

    #1

    Partnership Termination

    Partnership terminated on 3/1/06 and didn't file the return until 2/1/07. They have been assessed a late filing penalty.
    Any body know if I can get this penalty waived?
    Noel
    "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."- Oscar Wilde
  • OldJack
    Banned
    • Dec 2005
    • 1689

    #2
    You might get a better response if you mentioned what calendar year tax return was not filed until 2/1/07.

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    • Jesse
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 2064

      #3
      I am assuming it is tax year 2006 you are questioning, with a short tax year vs a calander tax year. Is there reasonable cause or 10 or fewer partners that can meet the reasonable cause test listed in the Tax Book pg 20-1?
      http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

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      • Acownt4it
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 274

        #4
        Originally posted by OldJack
        You might get a better response if you mentioned what calendar year tax return was not filed until 2/1/07.
        this is for calendar year 2006.
        Noel
        "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."- Oscar Wilde

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        • OldJack
          Banned
          • Dec 2005
          • 1689

          #5
          Maybe the reasonable cause is the tax partner relied upon a professional tax preparer that did not know the return was due within the 4½ months from the date of termination.

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          • Acownt4it
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2005
            • 274

            #6
            Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
            Noel
            "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."- Oscar Wilde

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            • Bees Knees
              Senior Member
              • May 2005
              • 5456

              #7
              Originally posted by OldJack
              Maybe the reasonable cause is the tax partner relied upon a professional tax preparer that did not know the return was due within the 4½ months from the date of termination.
              Your reasonable cause can be I didn't feel like filing. I was busy watching TV.

              As long as there are 10 or fewer partners, there is no penalty for failing to file a 1065, assuming all partners file their 1040s correctly using the correct K-1 flow through items.

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              • OldJack
                Banned
                • Dec 2005
                • 1689

                #8
                Originally posted by Bees Knees
                Your reasonable cause can be I didn't feel like filing. I was busy watching TV.

                As long as there are 10 or fewer partners, there is no penalty for failing to file a 1065, assuming all partners file their 1040s correctly using the correct K-1 flow through items.
                I guess it just show how foolish the IRS is to even send a penalty notice to a 1065 filer. I would love to see a case where your reasonable cause would be accepted by the IRS. I would expect that claiming the filing exception provision at this stage would be to little, to late. But then, I am not an IRS employee that would deal with such matters.

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                • Acownt4it
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 274

                  #9
                  Thanks to all that replied.

                  I called the IRS and the agent was very helpful. He gave me specific instructions that qualify for the Small Partnership Exception Rule as written in the TB pg. 20-1(Thanks Jesse), with one exception.

                  There are four criteria's, not three. TB Editors may want to look into this, I did not look up the specific code to see if there are four; IRS Code 6231(a)(1)(B). But the agent said number the fourth is:
                  Each partner must own the same percentage of all items in the partnership.

                  This does not mean that each partnership % must be equal, just that each indivdual partner must have the same % ownership in the assets, liabilities, profit and losses.
                  Noel
                  "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."- Oscar Wilde

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                  • outwest
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 455

                    #10
                    If you really want to understand this small partnership..

                    reasonable cause exception, here is a very thorough discussion of law history and requirements:

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