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    When somebody mentioned "URL" the other day, it started me thinkin' (I know, you think that's a hard-start) about all that Internet stuff Dany knows about, "avatars" and such, and then Bill Gates and Steve Jobs and all them; so I decided to look some of it up to see "what they're up to," so to speak.

    Some of it's "funny sounding" stuff--puts you in mind of that squiggly writin' at the bottom right side of a cancelled check (don't go changin' a check after it clears the bank--that squiggle is the amount of the cashed check). Anyway, about URL--it's not your brother-in-law's first name (Earl), it's not the time of day (like now-early-5:30 in the mornin'), and it's not how your tools get (oily) when you've overhauled an engine. It's Uniform Resource Locator which is "an address widget" (no wonder that IRS gal wasn't surprised when I gave her "Black Bart Widgets" for an address).

    WWW- World Wide Web-(or "where we're wedged" at right now, I think).

    HTTP - Hyper Text Transfer Protocol - the primary method of conveying WWW information, the original purpose of which was to provide a way to publish and receive HTML (a set of tags & rules to develop hypertext documents) pages, culminating in publication of RFC2616, the version of HTTP in common use today. Got that?

    You have to give Bill and Steve credit--no mere mortal could plow through this stuff without goin' off the deep end. Still, it's got lighter moments--I found this under "Editing the Web": Problem: Detecting the Lost Update Problem Using Unreserved Checkout-W3C Note of May 10, 1999 by Frystyk and LaLiberte (I'da been disappointed if was the work of Smith and Jones, wouldn't you?) Anyhow, they say "avoiding the lost update problem has been a notorious challenge when editing remotely." They give an example of how to do that using a fictitional example (the setting appears to be a soap opera at the grocery store--not sure). It says, "Ron saves his Edits (maybe a new type of detergent). Shirley saves her Edits (bet she uses cold water, too), but didn't see Ron's Edits (why wouldn't he let her see it? Soap's soap.), which are lost in the operation (now I know it's a soap opera).

    Then they give: "other ways to solve the lost update (don't get it--why's your date up or down? An' how'd ye lose 'er?) problem--each with varying level of complexity." The "other" ways are:

    OBC - Out-of-band communication and social agreements (Ron plays solo bass fiddle and Shirley agrees to put up with it).

    UCAD - Unreserved Checkout with Automatic Detection and Manual Resolution of Conflicts at Checkin. (Two possibilities: (1) she tells Ron he's a cad. (2) you can buy all the detergent you want while it's on sale, but they always got a camera on you and if you overdo it too bad, they'll have security rassle you to the floor next time you come back).

    EW/SL - Early warning of potential future conflicts--shared locks. (If they see you comin' back with a shotgun; they lock you out and take your key back).

    PCP - Persistent Cache Protocol. (Two possibilities again: (1) It's drugs. (2) Both Ron & Shirley want to hold on to what they catch (don't know why--usually you'd go to the doctor to get rid of it),

    I better say it again. Beware of geeks bearing gifts.
    Last edited by Black Bart; 12-08-2005, 08:16 AM.

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    GeekGuyBart

    Since you are in the mood to figure out computer lingo stuff, tell us why I have to go down to the "START" button to turn off my computer.

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      #3
      Sorry, Bees--I'm out

      of my depth there.

      Yoo-hoo, GeekGirlDany: Are you anywhere around to furnish the answer to this complex inquiry?

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        Um, there are an aweful lot of people in this world that consider tax preparers geeks. Is the IRS code that much easier to understand than the stuff you wrote? )

        A while back I did a seminar for abused women looking for new careers. I offer tax preparation as an idea for them and this cute 20 something said "I couldn't do that, I don't want to be a dork." And here I thought I'd outgrown that since high school! Burst my bubble.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Roberts
          Um, there are an aweful lot of people in this world that consider tax preparers geeks. Is the IRS code that much easier to understand than the stuff you wrote?
          A while back I walked into a room where two computer geeks were talking in what sounded like East Ukranian or some other obscure language. I made some crack about what a strange world computer geeks must live in. The one guy said "Yeah, coming from somebody who gets excited when the new IRS code books arrive."

          Actually, I think tax accountants would fall more under the "nerd" category than the geek category. As long as there's not an expletive before the description, I think it's O.K.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Armando Beaujolais
            Actually, I think tax accountants would fall more under the "nerd" category than the geek category. As long as there's not an expletive before the description, I think it's O.K.
            According to my dictionary:

            A geek is defined as a person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

            A nerd is defined as a person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

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              #7
              geeks

              I think geeks are skinnier.

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                #8
                I believe a nerd is more ept than a geek.

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                  Geeks & Dorks

                  Well, you've got a point, but at least our stuff's in English and if we say "capital gains," people assume we're talking about making money by selling something. Suppose you had to say something like "I was messin' with an URL in my Hyper-Text-Protocol the other night and....? You might get slapped.

                  Some of the people who criticize us are pretty awful themselves. Why should I let some dope "burst my bubble"? I don't even know you, but I'd bet money that you're far and away a better person than the one who made that statement. Who was teaching that seminar and who was attending it?

                  Ever hear anythng, half-jokingly, like this from a manual laborer client--"Hi, Easy Money. Do you still "back up" to the paywindow to get your check for doin' this office work"? I have, and I asked the last one, "Did you finish school?" The answer's invariably "No." Then I asked "What happened? You quit?" After his sheepish "Yes," I asked, "How come? Bookwork too hard"? He got the idea and never made any more wisecracks.

                  The reason they want to pronouce this stuff "geeky" is this--thinking is hard work. Nobody wants to do it. I once had a 20-something quit the job I gave her because, as she put it, "It's boring." Well, yeah, it is sometimes, but not always. Did she expect to get a big kick out of working in an office? I don't know, but I do know that I don't want to work at "the dollar store," which, by the way, is where she's putting in her time today (guess it's not boring there).

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                    Pretty funny Bart. Half that stuff I didn't know what you were talking about

                    I think that a nerd is one that is more intelligent in one given subject. Whereas a geek doesn't exactly have to be that intelligent. Go to any SciFi convention and you will know what I mean.

                    Here is a good explanation:
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerd#Nerds_and_geeks

                    I often get asked how I can know so much about computers/website design and accounting at the same time. The computers/website design started out as much more of a hobby than business. If people need help in that area I ususally can help. And if I can make some money on a hobby that is good.

                    I've had a couple of friends say the didn't know what I was talking about. Well customers too. That goes for taxes and computers. I can tell when a person zones out.

                    BTW according to Bill Gates mother he stayed down in the basement all the time and she didn't know what he was doing. She wasn't sure what he would grow up to be.

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                      Originally posted by Bees Knees
                      Since you are in the mood to figure out computer lingo stuff, tell us why I have to go down to the "START" button to turn off my computer.
                      You always end where you begin

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