LLC - California Question

[jainen]

The bulb burned out

Your problem would be finding a place to put it. Even then, permits and fees (including studies and hearings and inspections) would likely be close to a hundred grand.

You might think that kind of bread would support a pretty vibrant community, but we have our problems. I went to the movies today. The bulb burned out and they didn't have a spare.

[S T]

Santa Cruz

Living in California most of us know that Santa Cruz and some of the other areas toward San Franciso, Marin County are in the "High Value" or "High Rent" Area.

That area is considered Northern California and at one point in time wanted to break away and become their own separate entity from Southern California. So California would I guess be split into "2 states" ???

Sandy

[jainen]

State of Jefferson

Santa Cruz is Central Coast, separated from the Greater Bay Area by a mountain range.

The only serious plan to split California is the State of Jefferson. It includes part of Oregon and does not go south of Mendocino, a long way from San Francisco. The area shares a distinct culture based on lumber and fishing. The proposal has a good pedigree from the 19th century, seeking real government services. ("The promised land--our roads are paved with promises.") Instead of sales tax, property tax, or income tax, the state would be funded by casinos and whore houses.

[ED SMITH]

Four Californias

I seem to remember a ballot proposition 10 or 15 years ago to split CA into 4 states. I don't remember if it actually got enough signatures to qualify.

The reason for the constant talk about splitting the state is water, which is a much a problem as taxes and high rents. Of course, you can add Cal-OSHA and the California EPA to the mix along with a host of other regulatory agencies. You think the feds are bad. We've got a double whammy.

Water is a constant source of problems with California's huge agricultural industry vieing with the needs of municipalities. Southern California, that s mainly Los Angeles and San Diego counties, has been stealing water from the rest of the state and else where for one hundred years. This is why there is a constant battle between the north and the south.

First, LA stole the water from the Owens Valley and turned it into a desert. Farmers who wouldn't sell were forced into bankruptcy when their wells were pumped dry by wells drilled near the edge of their property. It was all part of a scheme to bring water to the San Fernando Valley, which today is the northern part of LA. Back then it was nothing but sand dunes. Fortunes were made by a few people.

After Owens Valley, came the Colorado River in the 30's when Boulder Dam was built.
And then in the 60's came the Feather River and Delta project, all designed to bring water to the LA basin.

'Nuff history for now.

ED

[jainen]

Santa Anita

>>he'd blown all their money on "a young filly"-- as he put it -- with the odd name of "Sandra Anita." Apparently, some Californians have bizarre ideas about the sanctity of marriage.<<

Did you say they sold a house, or a horse? Santa Anita is a racetrack in downtown Los Angeles. Black Bart, I think "you were being your usual sarcastic self." You gave yourself away by suggesting that Californians have ANY idea about the sanctity of marriage.

[Black Bart]

Yeah--just joshin'. I know

>>he'd blown all their money on "a young filly"-- as he put it -- with the odd name of "Sandra Anita." Apparently, some Californians have bizarre ideas about the sanctity of marriage.<<

Did you say they sold a house, or a horse? Santa Anita is a racetrack in downtown Los Angeles. Black Bart, I think "you were being your usual sarcastic self." You gave yourself away by suggesting that Californians have ANY idea about the sanctity of marriage.

it's a track (is that the same one Anjelica Huston was workin' in that movie?). Anyway; very nice catch! Didn't think anybody would.

Actually, I've been to the "Golden West" a few times. One of your traffic cops in L.A. gave my daddy a ticket in 1950 (claimed they didn't even recognize Arkansas drivers' licenses out there). Don't know the exact complaint, but he might've have a point--when I took my driver's test (never mind what year), there wasn't any actual driving involved. Now, that might seem a governmental oversight to you furriners, but, let me tell you, I had to read the ten-page phamplet at least twice and raise five dollars to get that license; so there. Other law enforcement issues: In a previous reincarnation, I robbed a few stages out there and would have been well-fixed if that durn 19th century CSI gumshoe hadn't tracked me down from the laundry marks on my shorts. I'd get him on a privacy violation nowadays (if there's a PC rule against saying "Merry Christmas," then there's just gotta be one against nosin' aroun' in other peoples' drawers).

As to the "sanctity of marriage" issue; you have reason to be optimistic. Existing right along with those pothole-less roads in your great state are firmly-entrenched ethics and integrity. Just the other day my truck-driver brother-in-law brought a magazine back from out there entitled, "Suburban Swingers," I believe. Please note that I onIy read the text and absolutely did not look at the "pitchers." I'm afraid I can't say the same for my relative who--not known for his sensitivity and a tad deficient with regard to matters of culture and decorum--did look at the pitchers; commenting, "She wuz nekkid as a jaybird." Well, anyway; to my point: the gal he was a-gapin' at stated, while it was beyond question that this here swingin' was "therapeutic" and "an absolute tonic" for dull marriages; that as a matter of principle, she felt "same-room" swingin' to be "detrimental to the overall health of a marriage, an impairment to the couple's cosmic togetherness, bad karma, and possibly even--immoral."

So, even if house prices are a factor (bedrooms out there are probably way too little to get more'n one swing set at a time in 'em); she still sounded real sincere. My in-law thought so too, but I will say that, because there was a full-length pitcher of her, he felt like maybe she would've been more convincin' if she'd only just had a stitch or two on.

[Black Bart]

Dear jainen,

Your problem would be finding a place to put it. Even then, permits and fees (including studies and hearings and inspections) would likely be close to a hundred grand.

You might think that kind of bread would support a pretty vibrant community, but we have our problems. I went to the movies today. The bulb burned out and they didn't have a spare.

Thanks for the advice about cousin Twin getting his shotgun house mailed out there to the land of "Moon-Doggie"--that's a boy's name in a "California" movie I saw about beaches, blankets, and bingo--pretty slick, eh? It takes a while for your movies to get here and we're way behind y'all, but we're on the cutting edge of social change. Although the nearest beach is at Bull Shoals, I can think of 2-3 boys right off that go by "Moon." Of course their mamas' didn't think to add on the catchy "Doggie" part (but I'll tell 'em for you). Oh, too, the VFW sponsors a bingo game Wednesday nights, but you don't usually need a blanket (they've got a real good stove).

Well, back to business, I guess. I told Twin what you said about the cost of the lot and all out there. He said (and this is a direct quote), "He is proud uv it, ain't he? Tell yuh what--a hunnerd dollers shorely is uh l'il "grand,"-- as he calls it -- fer jist uh lot, but steel....{thoughtful pause}, it ain't plumb out uh th' question. He sounds lock a purty good boah, even if he's funny-named an' uh l'il bit smart-alecky yuh say, so ah ain't aimin' to cost him no money or enythin'. Tell 'im ah sed that we'gone trod'raise it, but if he kin git 'nother offer fer a hunnerd 'fore we git back to 'im; why, jist go ahead an' let 'er go." Though a "sharp" trader--Twin's really good-at-heart. Note--since he's a realtor, I told him what y'all had said about the necessity of a form itemizing details of a business' sale, but not for lots. He insisted I document anyway. No point in argument as, working on our joint realty project (Oil Trough Estates), I mentioned due diligence and he asked "ezzackly how much do we owe?" So, here's both your comments and his projected tax treatment:

(J)...finding a place to put it...
(T)...I seen uh map uh that state once't. Cayn't see how anybuddy'd have uh problem cuttin'' a hunnerd feet off'n th' nearest 40. Hmmm...hunnerd feet, hunnerd dollers, that's uh doller uh foot. Maht oughtta rethank this--we doughwan him t'think he kin git top doller ever'tahm.
(J)...permits...
(T)...no problem there. Buildin' permit's $10.
(J)...fees...
(T)...you jist ast that, but ah'll say it agin. It's $10.
(J)...studies...
(T)...ah done studied on it. Bart says it's okay, and ah don' beat 'round the bush.
(J)...hearings...
(T)...ah don't keer one way or t'other if it's quiet around there. Ah'll be here in Arkansas.
(J)...inspections...
(T)...'nother $10 when we git thru.
(J)...a hundred grand...
(T)...we done got over that.
(J)...kind of bread...
(T)...??? thissiz uh lot sale, but...ah et some garlic bread once't if you're innerested.
(J)...support...
(T)...ah git uh guvmint check.
(H)...pretty vibrant community...
(T)...you cay'nt beat it here when th' leaves is turnin'. An' thissiz New Madrid earthquake
tear-tory. You should'uv seen us vibrate 'round here 'bout 30 years ago.
(J)...problems...
(T)...they call me "Smart" Twin "No Problems" Halfacre.
(J)...went to the movies...
(T)...that ain't nuthin' t'blow 'bout. We got one two.
(J)...bulb burned out...didn't have a spare...
(T)...best place is Dollar General (git two this tahm).

(T) Gess that wraps it up. Ah'm turnin' in $20 fer permits and $80 fer capital ******. Bart sez you cayn't cuss on this board, 'er Arm-and-dough will blooper ye, but enyhow that lass word is th' rear end and whar it sets. That's two funny names so far and why'd y'all name yore town Santa Cruz? Sump'n t'do with Christmas?

[jainen]

sounds weird

Egad! We got up this morning and there is water everywhere--on the ground, running down the street, even up in the trees. I know this sounds weird, but it seems to be coming out of the sky! Has anybody ever heard of anything like this?

[Bees Knees]

Egad! We got up this morning and there is water everywhere--on the ground, running down the street, even up in the trees. I know this sounds weird, but it seems to be coming out of the sky! Has anybody ever heard of anything like this?

In Minnesota, we call it rain in the summer, and snow in the winter. You must be from Arizona.

I had my cousin's daughter up one summer from Arizona. It was her first visit to see all the Minnesota relatives. As we were driving across the Mississippi bridge, she goes "LOOK! Its flooding!" She had never seen water in a river before that wasn't due to flooding.