Disposition of Vehicle -Used Standard Mileage

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  • equinecpa
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 578

    #1

    Disposition of Vehicle -Used Standard Mileage

    I am a little confused.

    Scenario: Client has truck used approximately 15% for business, 85% personal use.
    Sells truck. Say originally purchased for $20,000, sold for $10,000
    The truck was used only about 10000 miles, 1500 business in all.

    I am getting a schedule 4797 loss on this truck, is this correct? Something tells me that with this much personal use on this vehicle I shouldn't have any business losses.

    This is how the numbers work for me:

    ACB of vehicle for business .15 x 20000 = $3000

    Depreciation (using mileage rates for each year) $250

    Undepreciated balance $2750

    Proceeds 1500

    Loss 2250. Can this be right?

    Thanks all

    Carolyn
  • OldJack
    Banned
    • Dec 2005
    • 1689

    #2
    You have not said who owned the vehicle?

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    • equinecpa
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 578

      #3
      This is a schedule C filer - the individual owned the vehicle.

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      • OldJack
        Banned
        • Dec 2005
        • 1689

        #4
        Suggest you study the auto sale example in 2006 pub 463, Travel, Entertainment, Gift, and Car Expense", page 25, subject "Disposition of a Car". htt://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p463.pdf

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        • Kram BergGold
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 2112

          #5
          Loss 1250

          $3,000- $250 = $2750 - $1500 = $1250.

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          • equinecpa
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 578

            #6
            Sorry my math whilst typing sucks, $1250 is the loss I calculated. Deductible or no?

            I read the 463 before posting - it doesn't contemplate the personal use side of this. I revisited it again, and to me it looks like a deductible loss, but I can't help thinking there is an overiding clause somewhere I'm missing....

            Carolyn

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            • veritas
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3290

              #7
              Cpas for horses?

              I thought I saw it all with Horse Chiropractors.

              You knowI haven't had a good rant about horses (or horse ppl) for sometime now.

              The loss is deductible.
              Last edited by veritas; 01-15-2007, 09:30 PM.

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              • RLymanC
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2005
                • 653

                #8
                Loss

                It just boggles the mind that the IRS will allow a loss. :>)
                Confucius say:
                He who sits on tack is better off.

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                • equinecpa
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 578

                  #9
                  That's why I'm posting....it doesn't quite seem right to me either. Does business use less than 50% come into play here? There must be some part of the code that deems this a personal asset and therefore disallows the loss....

                  Veritas - I use equine Chiropractors!

                  Carolyn

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                  • veritas
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 3290

                    #10
                    Do they do

                    adjustments?

                    The loss on the business protion of the vehicle is a 4797 loss.

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                    • Brad Imsdahl
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 623

                      #11
                      The loss on the business portion is deductible.

                      Originally posted by equinecpa
                      That's why I'm posting....it doesn't quite seem right to me either. Does business use less than 50% come into play here? There must be some part of the code that deems this a personal asset and therefore disallows the loss....
                      The 50% rule is the limitation on accelerated depreciation. There is no similar limit on deducting losses.

                      If it makes you feel any better, being able to deduct 15% of your loss also means that 85% of the loss is non-deductible.

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