Bees - Cold Weather

[Black Bart]

Movie / Weather

Lance & jainen:

I saw "Fargo." It was a wonderful movie. I had a good discussion on the other board last year with abby and I think she said the same thing you're saying about the Minnesotans' speech, i.e., that it was "real." Seems like she said she was there one time and met some of the actual local people that acted in the movie. About the weather, she pointed out that you had to be from Minnesota to get the irony in the lady cop's remark to the captured killer in her patrol car, saying "...and it's such a beautiful day..." while surrounded by solid-white snow and ice as far as the eye could see.

Like the Louisiana person, I really would like to see some 70's weather for a change. I'd almost drive to Santa Cruz to get it. It's been miserably hot here for months.

[Gretel]

Joining in

We had a bad winter storm already two days ago. 10 inches of snow. With all the leaves still on the trees a lot of power outage. Now all is gone again. That's the nice thing in Montana. No weather condition stays very long. You always get a warm break in between.

As far as slang and accent is concerned. What am I supposed to say with my heavy German one? Although I don't run into many situations where people make fun of it. When my son was younger (he was young enough when we immigrated, so he doesn't have an accent) he was very mad at me because he thought I didn't try hard enough.

Well, I lived in Virginia before I moved up here and I miss the southern accent badly. Luckily I can watch movies from that area.

[JON]

Cohen brothers

The Cohen brothers who made "Fargo" grew up in Minnesota. The lady cop in Fargo is married to one of them.

[abby]

ah yes, those Minnesota days...

Must admit I usually don't miss the winters here in Oregon. Still, now and again, I wish for the beauty of that newly fallen snow of my youth instead of the rain.

I directed a play once about the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald on Lake Superior and it was great fun teaching all these West Coast boys to talk like Minnesotans/Wisconsonites. Fargo came out a few years later and would have been a great resource for them to get the dialect right. Still one of my all time favorite movies.

There's a remarkably funny show out there about two ice fisherman that I saw when I was in Madison a couple of years ago. Thought of bringing it here to the PNW, but I don't think it would translate well. Bees, Lance, others - did you ever see this show? I believe it started in Minneapolis.

Bart - it's nice to have an off subject thread, isn't it, without fear that others will chide us? It appears that if anybody takes us to task, that they'll also have to take on the editors!

[Black Bart]

abby

Yeah, it is nice (theatrical chat without corporate lackey overseers).

Very pleased to hear from you again. Say, abby, wasn't it you that knew of or knew something of Fargo's snow-shoveling bartender? And was it you or somebody else, hmm...maybe Bees, that once pointed out the "nice day" weather joke (I tend to sort'a meld my stories and storytellers into composites). What else? Umm; Steve Buscemi, the "funny-lookin' guy-in a general way." He's come a long way from a bit player, hasn't he? In "big" films now, but I haven't seen him in anything artsy-smartsy for quite a while-a casualty of success maybe.

The ice fishing play you were talking about-is that from Kevin Kling (I want to say Calvin Klien)?

What's the PNW?

I'm a big fan of the new cable show "Weeds." Seen it? Like it?

Poignancy just oozes out of you. E.g., your "...now and again, I wish for the beauty of that newly fallen snow of my youth..." Puts me in mind of this (Wm. Wordsworth): "...though nothing can bring back the hour of splendour in the grass, of glory in the flower; we will grieve not..."

Excusez moi. I tend to wax philosophical at the drop of a DVD disc.

[Bees Knees]

There's a remarkably funny show out there about two ice fisherman that I saw when I was in Madison a couple of years ago. Thought of bringing it here to the PNW, but I don't think it would translate well. Bees, Lance, others - did you ever see this show? I believe it started in Minneapolis.

I haven't seen it. I do remember Grumpy Old Men with Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau. It was filmed on one of Minnesota's lakes, and was pretty close to reality. You look out over any lake in the winter and see a whole community of fish houses and cars parked outside of each. They even plow for roads sometimes.

That reminds me of an old Sven and Ole joke. A snowmobile is towing a fish house out on the lake to a new spot. Sven says to Ole: "Hey Ole, look, there troling."

[Bees Knees]

Say, abby, wasn't it you that knew of or knew something of Fargo's snow-shoveling bartender? And was it you or somebody else, hmm...maybe Bees, that once pointed out the "nice day" weather joke (I tend to sort'a meld my stories and storytellers into composites).

The "nice day outside" was the part that hit me the funniest. To an outsider, you would think the cloudy snowy day would seem like she was just being sarcastic. Its horrible out, so you say it is nice out. But to a Minnesotan, the nice day remark could actully have meant the cloudy and snowy day was nice because it was 20 above instead of 20 below.

[abby]

Bart

It was me that knew some of the cameo players as they were part of the Minneapolis theatre scene when I was at the University.

PNW is the Pacifc Northwest

and, although a big fan of Kevin Kling, I was not referring to his play but 'an Ice Fishing Musical' called 'Guys on Ice'. There is a particularly sublime musical number where the instruments they play are all the velcro and zippers on their snow suits.

Love Mr Buscemi, but haven't seen much of him since he did a season on The Sopranos. Still, if you look at the imdb.com database, he's got a bunch of stuff in the pipeline.

I don't know 'Weeds' but I'm always happy for a tip from someone with your considerabe sensibilities - what channel is it on?

[Black Bart]

Channel?

Cable: Showtime.

[Black Bart]

Bees / Armando

I haven't seen it. I do remember Grumpy Old Men with Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau. It was filmed on one of Minnesota's lakes, and was pretty close to reality. You look out over any lake in the winter and see a whole community of fish houses and cars parked outside of each. They even plow for roads sometimes."

Taxwise, you two walk on water. Fishwise, I didn't know you could park a car or plow roads on it.

[Bees Knees]

According to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, it takes at least 4 inches of clear solid ice to support a person on foot, 5 inches for a snowmobile and 8-12 inches for a small car or truck. Some ice on lakes around here get to be 2 to 3 feet thick. Of course, there are always incidents every year where people go through the ice because of areas where the ice is thin due to a spring or running water on a river.

[Black Bart]

Phoenix Gary

I lived most of my life in Ohio and the Chicago area (except for 2 years in Alabama). The last seven years in Phoenix have been wonderful. No more, snow, ice, snow, cold, grass to cut. I don't mind the 120 degree days. That's what swimming pools are for. Gary

Have to admit, that does sound good. Although I think I'd miss the grass and your heat is every bit as tough as it is here. Still--whatever pleases.

I was in your town once long ago and I seem to remember that static electricity was a problem because of the weather and therefore everybody (at least in the casinos) carried a coin to touch metal surfaces with to keep from being shocked repeatedly. Is that right? One gambler told me that, but is it universal or was I misinformed?

[Black Bart]

Louisiana

Now I'm jealous.I would die for cool weather right about now. In Louisiana the high was 95 yesterday.That was cool after a 98 Monday.Cold front was comming today.Temp now is 82.We had 7 days of 100 plus in Sept.

Is your town close to New Orleans?

[Black Bart]

As far as slang and accent is concerned. What am I supposed to say with my heavy German one? Although I don't run into many situations where people make fun of it. When my son was younger (he was young enough when we immigrated, so he doesn't have an accent) he was very mad at me because he thought I didn't try hard enough.

You don't have to say anything or apologize for the accent (it worked for Henry Kissinger). You're an accountant and you're contributing to society You had the courage to pull up your life by its roots, move to another country, learn the language, and establish a successful profession. It's a safe bet that those who mock your speech could not have done the same.

Kids today--what can you say? Tell him you could have left him at home with the relatives. How would he have liked that?

[abby]

Ah, yes

Ah yes, the superb Mary Louise Parker. Don't get Showtime, but will be looking for the DVD.