New 1099-R Coding for QCD's

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  • TaxGuyBill
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    Originally posted by Rapid Robert
    That's like asking, if I enter an amount on Line 11 of Schedule A, should the IRS assume it is a deductible charitable contribution?


    OK, so you are in the camp that believes the code Y is completely useless and no one should care if it's present or not..


    Maybe we are looking at the topic completely differently, because your Schedule A analogy seems completely off from how I'm viewing it. Entering something on Schedule A is the taxpayer specifically stating something; that the opposite of IRA custodian or IRS automatically assuming a QCD without the taxpayer stating such a thing.


    I wouldn't say useless, but it isn't a cure-all. But just informational, like code "G" for direct rollover. The IRA custodian puts code "G" in for a rollover that they KNOW is a rollover, but the taxpayer can roll it over outside of the custodial and still report the rollover on the tax return. Similarly, the IRA custodial puts code "Y" in for something that they KNOW is a QCD, but taxpayer should still be able to report a QCD that was not done directly by the IRA custodial (such as through an IRA-checkbook).


    Interestingly, the Draft 1099-R Instructions that were posted today state that code "Y" is optional for 2026.

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/i1099r--dft.pdf

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  • Rapid Robert
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    Originally posted by TaxGuyBill
    If I have an IRA-checkbook and I write the check to Rapid Robert, are you saying they should assume it is an QCD?
    That's like asking, if I enter an amount on Line 11 of Schedule A, should the IRS assume it is a deductible charitable contribution? The return is signed under penalty of perjury, and the IRS has its inscrutable methods for determining when to make the taxpayer prove something they swore was true, whether it's a QCD or an itemized deduction.

    This tangential discussion is a lot of overkill for what is a subset of all QCDs, and I doubt either of us knows what percent of all QCDs are made by paper check written by the owner (not the custodian). Even if the "paper check" method turns out to be problematic, what about everyone else, who request QCDs online or using a request form with their custodian, not via paper check? Do you think the code Y will play a role for those people? (a sincere question).

    Someone mentioned, and I think it's true, that the agreement is that the IRA paper checks will only be used for QCDs, nothing else. Incidentally I have researched Fidelity and JP Morgan as two examples, and while both allow the IRA owner to request them to send the QCD check on the owner's behalf, they do not ask for the EIN of the payee and I suspect make no effort at all to determine the type of entity to which they make the payment. As the well-known CYA language for these institutions goes, "see your tax professional for information about the tax implications of your actions". They will wash their hands of it, and rightly so.

    Originally posted by TaxGuyBill
    In my opinion, the IRA custodian should NOT assume any of those and should be treated as a taxable/non-rollover distribution. It should still be an option for the taxpayer to state if it was a qualifying QCD or not.
    OK, so you are in the camp that believes the code Y is completely useless and no one should care if it's present or not. That may well turn out to be true, since the IRS has not provided further guidance (at least not to the public) as to exactly what the code Y connotes and whether it applies to all or part of the distribution.
    Last edited by Rapid Robert; 06-16-2026, 06:56 PM.

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  • TaxGuyBill
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    Originally posted by Rapid Robert

    So if the money was not paid to the IRA account owner, nor to another IRA custodian, nor to the IRS or some other government agency under a court order, then it's pretty clear it's a QCD,


    If I have an IRA-checkbook and I write the check to Rapid Robert, are you saying they should assume it is an QCD? Or do you assume that the bank should research if Rapid Robert is a 501(c)(3)? Or what if I write the check to 'My Bank' - does the IRA custodian know if I deposited it into my personal bank account or if it deposited it into a rollover IRA account?

    In my opinion, the IRA custodian should NOT assume any of those and should be treated as a taxable/non-rollover distribution. It should still be an option for the taxpayer to state if it was a qualifying QCD or not.

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  • Rapid Robert
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    Originally posted by TaxGuyBill
    How does the payer know it is not a rollover or conversion?

    If the taxpayer has an IRA-checkbook, how does the payer know what happened to the funds?
    The payer knows who they paid the money to. Just like my bank knows who I write checks to, in fact they can provide me an image of the checks I write (and I obviously did not provide them with that image or any meta information about the checks I have written - so where do you think they got the info from?).

    For a trustee to trustee rollover or conversion, obviously the IRA custodian knows it is not a QCD. For a DIY rollover or conversion, again they know who they paid the money to. So if the money was not paid to the IRA account owner, nor to another IRA custodian, nor to the IRS or some other government agency under a court order, then it's pretty clear it's a QCD, since QCDs must be made payable directly to the charity. And as I previously stated, it's on the taxpayer to prove that the reciipient was a qualified charity and that they have the proper written acknowledgement.

    Originally posted by FEDUKE404
    I still do not understand how Code Y can come into play on the 1099-R, unless possibly ALL reported distributions qualify as QCDs.
    I already explained this. They could easily issue two 1099-Rs, one with the QCD amount and code Y, and the other with the remaining distribution amount and distribution codes.

    Several commenters in this thread take the position that the taxpayer should not be concerned if they made a QCD but no code Y is on the 1099-R because the IRS will not be concerned. Again I ask, why then do those folks think the code Y was added if it doesn't really count for anything?





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  • FEDUKE404
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    Originally posted by TaxGuyBill
    How does the payer know it is not a rollover or conversion?

    If the taxpayer has an IRA-checkbook, how does the payer know what happened to the funds?
    Darn good question!
    Also, is "the checkbook" for any withdrawals such as regular RMD, QCD, or "extra" withdrawals?
    Or is the poster saying it is "only a QCD" checkbook??

    Found with Google search: "If your IRA provides a checkbook feature, you can write a check yourself, but it must be made payable directly to the charity."

    I still do not understand how Code Y can come into play on the 1099-R, unless possibly ALL reported distributions qualify as QCDs.

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  • TaxGuyBill
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    How does the payer know it is not a rollover or conversion?

    If the taxpayer has an IRA-checkbook, how does the payer know what happened to the funds?

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  • Rapid Robert
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    Originally posted by TaxGuyBill
    I'll start of with that I have NOT researched it yet to see if there is guidance ...

    If the financial institution writes a check to the charitable organization, it seems likely they would always use Code Y.

    But some financial institutions provide an IRA-checkbook to the taxpayer, and the taxpayer writes the check to the charitable organization. It is those situations that it seems logical to me that some may not be listed with a "Y" and would need to be manually entered as a QCD (and possibly more scrutiny from the IRS).
    I did research via the web, and no there is no guidance to clarify whether 1099-R code Y is to be used in combination with non-QCD distributions on the same 1099-R. I guess we'll have to wait until next January 31 to see what shows up.

    Whether the QCD is requested via an online form or via a paper check makes no difference: the payer still knows that it is not a rollover/conversion, it is not a levy, and it is not paid to the IRA owner. What else could it be other than a QCD?

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  • TaxGuyBill
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    Originally posted by Rapid Robert
    Change "might" to "probably", at least for non-de minimis amounts. Otherwise, what is the purpose of adding code Y?

    I'll start of with that I have NOT researched it yet to see if there is guidance ...

    If the financial institution writes a check to the charitable organization, it seems likely they would always use Code Y.

    But some financial institutions provide an IRA-checkbook to the taxpayer, and the taxpayer writes the check to the charitable organization. It is those situations that it seems logical to me that some may not be listed with a "Y" and would need to be manually entered as a QCD (and possibly more scrutiny from the IRS).

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  • FEDUKE404
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    As I mentioned above, I have clients whose 2025 IRA income with all / none / some QCD amount involved. None of those Forms 1099-R showed Code Y, although my 2025 tax software DOES have that as a separate selection in the pull-down menu for Box 7.
    There may be in 2026 the need for a "pure" non-QCD Form 1099-R with Code 7 and separately the need for an "all QCD" Form 1099-R with Code Y. That would seem to be a logical approach to things.
    QUESTION: For anyone who has already seen a Code Y Form 1099-R, has that been the primary code, or perhaps a secondary code?

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  • Rapid Robert
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    Originally posted by New York Enrolled Agent
    The IRS might question it down the road
    Change "might" to "probably", at least for non-de minimis amounts. Otherwise, what is the purpose of adding code Y?

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  • New York Enrolled Agent
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    Originally posted by Rapid Robert
    I don't think so.
    If the taxpayer truly did a QCD, then I would suggest that the lack of a code would not control. Substance over form would rule - a QCD is a QCD.

    The IRS might question it down the road but if the taxpayer indeed did a QCD then it should be reported as such.

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  • Rapid Robert
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    Originally posted by RWG1950
    . Was wondering if no code "Y" is shown on the form, can we still show a QCD to be a QCD on the 1040.
    I don't think so.

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  • Rapid Robert
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    Originally posted by FEDUKE404
    SOME of the IRA distribution shown on the Form 1099-R is QCD.

    Perhaps if ALL of the IRA distribution is via QCD then Code Y might appear, but I have no clients who fit that category.
    The instructions do not make clear whether code Y is meant to apply to the entire Box 1 amount or just some unspecified portion of it.

    The only thing that makes sense is that one or more 1099-Rs would be issued for a single IRA (this is already the case in several other situations, per IRS instructions). The amount of the QCD would be on one 1099-R with code Y (newly required for 2026, optional for 2025), and any remaining amount would be on one or more separate 1099-Rs with appropriate codes.

    However, there is no guarantee that the IRS did it in a way that makes sense. Smart/helpful payers will probably break out the code Y amount on a separate 1099-R. Others probably will not, which is barely any different from the way it was before and therefore pretty useless.

    It is still on the taxpayer to have the required written acknowledgement for any QCD amount.


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  • RWG1950
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    To clarify my original post
    The manual adjustment I refer to is when the preparer enters the amount of IRA distribution as QCD on the 1099-R screen, allowing for differing amounts on lines 4-a & 4-b of the 1040.
    As I understand this, the code "Y" on 1099-R will be new for QCD's in the 2026 tax year. Was wondering if no code "Y" is shown on the form, can we still show a QCD to be a QCD on the 1040.
    A taxpayer can initiate ongoing monthly QCD redemptions from their mutual fund IRA - if paid by the IRA directly to their charity.

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  • FEDUKE404
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    I think there is some verbal confusion here.
    Several of my clients routinely participate in QCDs from an IRA. I have NEVER encountered Code Y on any Form 1099-R.
    In virtually all cases, SOME of the IRA distribution shown on the Form 1099-R is QCD. My software does show "a manual adjustment" on the data entry worksheet, asking what portion if any is for a QCD. I enter the QCD amount there and the taxable amount of the IRA distribution is reduced. Now also a box gets checked versus the prior"QCD" line annotation.
    Perhaps if ALL of the IRA distribution is via QCD then Code Y might appear, but I have no clients who fit that category.

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