Unemployment adjustment tax program fix

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  • BOB W
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 4061

    #1

    Unemployment adjustment tax program fix

    Ultra tax just notified users that NO fix is planned until IRS gets back to them.
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  • spanel
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 845

    #2
    Are we talking returns already filed or return not filed?

    Obviously returns already filed... no one has answers.

    Returns not filed... most all softwares have solutions in place already... Using Taxslayer Pro.. they updated yesterday.

    Chris

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    • Twin Turbo Z
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 373

      #3
      Proseries was suppose to have a fix yesterday. But that did not pan out.

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      • wwmadden
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 2

        #4
        The IRS Instructions for the Unemployment Compensation Exclusion can be read here:
        If your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) is less than $150,000, the American Rescue Plan Act enacted on March 11, 2021, allows you to exclude from income up to $10,200 of unemployment compensation paid in 2020. This means you don’t have to pay tax on unemployment compensation of up to $10,200 on your 2020 tax return only.

        If there aren't any updates in time for you to file your client's tax return just follow the worksheet instructions.

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        • BOB W
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 4061

          #5
          Originally posted by spanel
          Are we talking returns already filed or return not filed?

          Obviously returns already filed... no one has answers.

          Returns not filed... most all softwares have solutions in place already... Using Taxslayer Pro.. they updated yesterday.

          Chris
          Actually both. Amended return can't be refiled without the MAGI update and current unfiled will have the same problem.
          Last edited by BOB W; 03-19-2021, 10:09 AM.
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          • TaxGuyBill
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 2322

            #6
            Originally posted by wwmadden
            The IRS Instructions for the Unemployment Compensation Exclusion can be read here:
            If your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) is less than $150,000, the American Rescue Plan Act enacted on March 11, 2021, allows you to exclude from income up to $10,200 of unemployment compensation paid in 2020. This means you don’t have to pay tax on unemployment compensation of up to $10,200 on your 2020 tax return only.

            If there aren't any updates in time for you to file your client's tax return just follow the worksheet instructions.

            But things are not always that simple. You ALSO need to compensate for all of the MAGI calculations that DON'T allow the exclusion.

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            • BOB W
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 4061

              #7
              Question for everyone: Would it be safe to file an Unemployment offset if there are NO MAGI items on the return?
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              • Rapid Robert
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2015
                • 1983

                #8
                News item says IRS will try to automatically change returns previously filed.

                https://www.accountingtoday.com/arti...nefit-payments

                Note also that extending the deadline will negatively impact some Americans, typically those most in need. (see article for details).
                "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
                "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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                • Anarchrist
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 353

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BOB W
                  Question for everyone: Would it be safe to file an Unemployment offset if there are NO MAGI items on the return?
                  No. When your software updates, you'll have two offsets and will have to go back and change all those returns. If it updates between finishing the return and receiving the 8879 back from the client and you don't catch it, you've massively screwed up.

                  The irs has stated not to file returns with unemployment at this time.
                  "Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society." ~ Mark Skousen

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                  • Y2KEA
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 344

                    #10
                    Lacerte implemented the change in their update yesterday.

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                    • BOB W
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 4061

                      #11
                      Originally posted by anarchrist

                      no. When your software updates, you'll have two offsets and will have to go back and change all those returns. If it updates between finishing the return and receiving the 8879 back from the client and you don't catch it, you've massively screwed up.

                      The irs has stated not to file returns with unemployment at this time.
                      ouch again!!!
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                      • Scarecrow
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 101

                        #12
                        Earlier in the year, I had a return on perpetual hold by ProSeries because one of the forms had not yet been updated by ProSeries. It was about a week and a half after they updated the form that they finally decided to send the e-filed return to the IRS. So no, I am not going to manually calculate unemployment on a worksheet and send it in, and then have ProSeries put the return in jail for weeks until they get around to doing their job. The same can be true for the State return. How do you know whether or not your State will reject a return or place it on hold for weeks because the State isn't ready yet to accept returns with unemployment benefits?

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                        • BOB W
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 4061

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=Y2KEA;n305312]Lacerte implemented the change in their update yesterday.[/QUOTE

                          Does it work and did your file any returns?
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                          • Y2KEA
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 344

                            #14
                            [QUOTE=BOB W;n305316]
                            Originally posted by Y2KEA
                            Lacerte implemented the change in their update yesterday.[/QUOTE

                            Does it work and did your file any returns?
                            It calculates correctly but I have not had the opportunity to file any returns claiming the exemption since the software update.

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                            • Lion
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 4699

                              #15
                              And, does it calculate the correct MAGI for other purposes, such as the taxable part of SS, IRA thresholds, student loan interest deduction, T&F deduction, and PAL thresholds for rental losses?

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