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  • Consultant
    Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 39

    #1

    Consultant

    Client withdrew $50,000.00 from IRA.Trustee to Trustee Transfer. No 1099-R Issued.
    Does he report the $50,000.00 on the one line and -0- taxable on the other?
    Or no reporting at all?
  • BOB W
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 4061

    #2
    I find it hard to believe that no 1099R was issued. If it was issued you would enter gross amount and then code it as G (rollover). Just leaving the taxable amount blank without the G code doesn't sound good enough. Client should contact Company and get the 1099R. It will be YOUR only proof of the transaction and the way YOU are reporting it.
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    • Gene V
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 1057

      #3
      Originally posted by Consultant
      Client withdrew $50,000.00 from IRA.Trustee to Trustee Transfer. No 1099-R Issued.
      Does he report the $50,000.00 on the one line and -0- taxable on the other?
      Or no reporting at all?
      A transfer of funds in your traditional IRA from one trustee directly to another, either at your request or at the trustee's request, is not considered a rollover. Because there is no distribution to you, the transfer is tax free. ... Trustee-to-trustee transfers are not required to be reported on Form 1099-R.

      You can read instruction 1099-R page 6

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      • BOB W
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 4061

        #4
        Originally posted by Gene V

        A transfer of funds in your traditional IRA from one trustee directly to another, either at your request or at the trustee's request, is not considered a rollover. Because there is no distribution to you, the transfer is tax free. ... Trustee-to-trustee transfers are not required to be reported on Form 1099-R.

        You can read instruction 1099-R page 6
        You are probably correct but I have never NOT received a 1099R with G code.. This "Not Required" is news to me and most institutions?
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        • Rapid Robert
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2015
          • 1983

          #5
          Originally posted by Consultant
          No 1099-R Issued.
          Unless you've checked the IRS transcript, all you know is that taxpayer says they did not receive it. It still may have been issued.

          To continue the post from Gene V above, below is from the 1099-R instructions. So yes, it appears IRA-to-IRA rollovers do not need to be reported.

          "Use Code G for a direct rollover from a qualified plan, a section 403(b) plan, or a governmental section 457(b) plan to an eligible retirement plan (another qualified plan, a section 403(b) plan, a governmental section 457(b) plan, or an IRA). See Direct Rollovers, earlier. Also use Code G for a direct payment from an IRA to an accepting employer plan, and for IRRs that are direct rollovers.Note. Do not use Code G for a direct rollover from a designated Roth account to a Roth IRA. Use Code H."

          "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
          "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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          • TAXNJ
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 2106

            #6
            Originally posted by Gene V

            A transfer of funds in your traditional IRA from one trustee directly to another, either at your request or at the trustee's request, is not considered a rollover. Because there is no distribution to you, the transfer is tax free. ... Trustee-to-trustee transfers are not required to be reported on Form 1099-R.

            You can read instruction 1099-R page 6
            Gene V, as usual to the point with a reference.

            Originally posted by BOB W

            You are probably correct but I have never NOT received a 1099R with G code.. This "Not Required" is news to me and most institutions?
            BOB W, as Gene V states “instruction 1099-R page 6” top of 1st paragraph.
            Last edited by TAXNJ; 03-15-2021, 07:35 PM.
            Always cite your source for support to defend your opinion

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            • BOB W
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 4061

              #7
              I know, I work off the top of my head. That's why NYEA, RR and Gene are around, to pounce on me... I love it....
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              • Rapid Robert
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2015
                • 1983

                #8
                Thread title, "Consultant"?
                "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
                "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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                • BOB W
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 4061

                  #9
                  OK... He's a management consultant. What wrong with that?
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                  • Gene V
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1057

                    #10
                    I first read this in TTB page 13-21 top right column---I read this many years ago--I see it is still there.

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                    • Rapid Robert
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 1983

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BOB W
                      OK... He's a management consultant. What wrong with that?
                      Nothing. But does the subject of this thread have anything to do with "Consultant" as a tax topic? (It would appear to be about IRAs). Are you going to start putting "Bob W" as the subject of new discussion threads you start, regardless of the actual subject? We already know who started the thread without repeating their name in the subject.
                      Consultant

                      Started by Consultant, Yesterday, 01:38 PM
                      "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
                      "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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                      • BOB W
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 4061

                        #12
                        Good catch... That's you're needed here, to keep us slow tinkers on the ball......
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                        • Dude
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2018
                          • 360

                          #13
                          For a roth conversion I just got a 1099R with a G code. IRA went from this account to a rollover account BUT they listed the Roth account as the destination. So I guess I can see why they put a G code. The new company Fidelity I believe should have then issued a 1099R with a 2 code. I called them but after some back and forth and lots of hold time they told me just to put in a 2 instead of a G.
                          "Dude, you are correct" Rapid Robert

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