Draft of 2020 Form 1040

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  • ATSMAN
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 2415

    #1

    Draft of 2020 Form 1040



    Note the following lines:

    10b Charitable Contribution, Max $300 Cares Act.
    30 Stimulus Check reconciliation. Instructions to be released. I am assuming an additional worksheet will also be required.
    Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR
  • New York Enrolled Agent
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 1531

    #2
    Did you notice that the draft 1040-SR is now a four page form? Simplification indeed

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    • ATSMAN
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 2415

      #3
      As soon as IRS (or was it Congress) announced that they were redesigning a post card sized tax return without underlying changes to the tax reporting system, I knew they were blowing smoke up you know where!!!
      Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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      • RWG1950
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2017
        • 461

        #4

        Atsman : As I understand this, very few taxpayers (if any) will be negatively affected by the reconciliation, but there could be some that get a larger credit than was initially provided.
        Think this is correct ? RWG1950

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        • kathyc2
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 1946

          #5
          A couple of the lines they added will help in reviewing returns. The non-refundable credit amount actually shows on 1040. That alone will cut down on my swearing. I also like the separate line for W/H from W-2 and 1099's.

          I'm not happy that for 2021 the box 7 of 1099-misc will receive it's own form. The least they can do is allow it to be plain paper rather than the red drop.

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          • Rapid Robert
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 1983

            #6
            Originally posted by kathyc2
            I'm not happy that for 2021 the box 7 of 1099-misc will receive it's own form.
            The Form 1099-NEC is not new, it existed in the distant past and was made inactive for a number of years, now it's back. (EDIT: you mean 2020, not 2021)

            The motivation is the filing deadline. Under current law, with 2019 1099-MISC you had different filing deadlines depending on which box(es) were filled in. Now you have a much more straight-forward set-up to determine filing deadline for 1099-NEC and 1099-MISC.
            "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
            "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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            • kathyc2
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 1946

              #7
              Originally posted by Rapid Robert
              The Form 1099-NEC is not new, it existed in the distant past and was made inactive for a number of years, now it's back. (EDIT: you mean 2020, not 2021)

              The one on IRS draft forms is 2021, but I see Box 7 is also not on 1099misc for 2020. I don't care so much that they have a new form as that they still are the red drop forms. I was thinking when W-2's were allowed on plain paper, it was said that 1099's would follow suit shortly.

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              • TaxGuyBill
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 2321

                #8
                Originally posted by kathyc2
                I was thinking when W-2's were allowed on plain paper, it was said that 1099's would follow suit shortly.

                But W-2's to go the Social Security Administration and 1099's go to the IRS. So it was the Social Security Administration that allows non-red forms, but the IRS still requires them with red.

                Out of curiosity, why do you file them by paper rather than e-filing them?

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                • kathyc2
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 1946

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TaxGuyBill


                  Out of curiosity, why do you file them by paper rather than e-filing them?
                  Because I'm frugal.

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                  • TaxGuyBill
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2321

                    #10
                    LOL. Yeah, I'm quite frugal too.

                    For my circumstances I've gotten to the point that that ease of doing things is worth the fairly low cost (much of the information carries over from year to year). And that extra cost is passed on to the clients.

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                    • Lion
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 4699

                      #11
                      E-filing saves me time which gives me time to make more money.

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                      • ATSMAN
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 2415

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lion
                        E-filing saves me time which gives me time to make more money.
                        Agreed. E-File is the way to go unless you are filing just one or two forms as a favor to someone.
                        Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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                        • kathyc2
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 1946

                          #13
                          I don't see how hitting the print button takes any longer than hitting the e-file button.

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                          • ATSMAN
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 2415

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kathyc2
                            I don't see how hitting the print button takes any longer than hitting the e-file button.
                            Postage, Toner, Paper, envelope, gas and time to go to the post office, wear and tear on printer etc. etc. If you love to paper file more power to you BUT I hate it like a plague!

                            I charge extra for paper filing returns for those who insist on it.
                            Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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                            • kathyc2
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 1946

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ATSMAN

                              Postage, Toner, Paper, envelope, gas and time to go to the post office, wear and tear on printer etc. etc. If you love to paper file more power to you BUT I hate it like a plague!

                              I charge extra for paper filing returns for those who insist on it.
                              Well, I don't do many of the items on your list. I print and give to client for them to sign, mail and distribute to recipients.
                              Do you give client a copy to authorize before you e-file on their behalf?
                              .

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