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    CA MFJ Nonresident Tax Questions

    Are the following four examples in the attachment word document correct regarding a California tax return for an MFJ couple where the taxpayer is a full-year CA resident and the spouse is a full-year nonresident? Since the spouse is a Ca nonresident, they file a Ca nonresident 540NR tax form.

    Notes:
    1] Interest generally has a source where the taxpayer is a resident.
    2] Income from intangible personal property generally has a source where the owner resides.

    Example 1: Both people live in community property states. They earned $800 in a joint CA account (Ca source interest). They each receive one-half ($400) of the interest.
    Taxpayer: Ca resident
    a) The $400 interest is Ca-source income since the taxpayer is a Ca resident.
    1] Since Ca is a community property state, the AZ-resident spouse receives $200 of this Ca-source
    income and it must be included on the Ca return.
    2] The taxpayer’s remaining $200 is taxable in Ca.
    Spouse: AZ resident
    a) The $400 interest is AZ-source income since the taxpayer is an AZ resident.
    1] Since AZ is a community property state, the CA-resident taxpayer receives $200 of this AZ-source
    income and it must be included on the Ca return since it is world-wide to the Ca-resident taxpayer.
    2] The spouse’s remaining $200 is not taxable in Ca as it is AZ-source income

    Total Ca taxable interest in Column E: $600 as shown in the CA(540NR) figure below.

    California Nonresident Form CA (540NR) – Adjustments
    Part I Residency Information
    During 2019
    1 My California Residency (check one)
    a myself Nonresident Part-Year Resident X Resident
    b Spouse X Nonresident Part-Year Resident Resident
    Yourself Spouse/RDP
    2a I was domiciled in (enter two letter code) CA AZ
    5 I was a CA resident the entire year (enter state of residence) CA AZ
    6 The number of days I spent in CA for any purpose was: 365 0
    7 I owned a home/property in CA (Enter Y for yes, N for no) N N
    PART II Income Adjustment Schedule A B C D E
    Section A – Income Federal Amounts
    (Taxable amount from your Fed Tax Rtn)
    Subtractions
    (difference between Ca & Fed law)
    Additions
    (difference between Ca & Fed law)
    Total amounts using Ca law as if you were a Ca resident (Subtract col B from col A; add col C to the result) CA amounts
    (Income earned or rcvd as a Ca resident and income earned or rcvd from Ca sources as a nonresident)
    1 Wages, salaries, tips, etc
    2 Interest income 800 800 600
    Example 2: The taxpayer lives in a community property state and the spouse lives in a separate property state.
    They earned $1000 in a joint CA account (Ca source interest). They each receive one-half ($500) of the interest.
    Taxpayer: Ca resident
    a) The $500 interest is Ca-source income since the taxpayer is a Ca resident.
    1] Since Ca is a community property state, the MT-resident spouse receives $250 of this Ca-source
    income and it must be included on the Ca return.
    2] The Ca-resident taxpayer’s remaining $250 is taxable in Ca.
    Spouse: MT resident
    a) The $500 interest becomes MT-source income since the taxpayer is an MT resident.
    1] Since MT is a separate property state, the CA-resident taxpayer receives $0 of this MT-source
    income.
    2] The spouse’s $500 is not taxable in Ca as it is MT-source income

    Total Ca taxable interest in Column E: $500 as shown in the CA(540NR) figure below.

    California Nonresident Form CA (540NR) – Adjustments
    Part I Residency Information
    During 2019
    1 My California Residency (check one)
    a myself Nonresident Part-Year Resident X Resident
    b Spouse X Nonresident Part-Year Resident Resident
    Yourself Spouse/RDP
    2a I was domiciled in (enter two letter code) CA MT
    5 I was a CA resident the entire year (enter state of residence) CA MT
    6 The number of days I spent in CA for any purpose was: 365 0
    7 I owned a home/property in CA (Enter Y for yes, N for no) N N
    PART II Income Adjustment Schedule A B C D E
    Section A – Income Federal Amounts
    (Taxable amount from your Fed Tax Rtn)
    Subtractions
    (difference between Ca & Fed law)
    Additions
    (difference between Ca & Fed law)
    Total amounts using Ca law as if you were a Ca resident (Subtract col B from col A; add col C to the result) CA amounts
    (Income earned or rcvd as a Ca resident and income earned or rcvd from Ca sources as a nonresident)
    1 Wages, salaries, tips, etc
    2 Interest income 1000 1000 500
    Example 3: Both people live in community property states. They earned $200 capital gains (intangible) in a joint CA account (Ca source income). They each receive one-half ($100) of the income.
    Taxpayer: Ca resident
    a) The $100 interest is Ca-source income since the taxpayer is a Ca resident.
    1] Since Ca is a community property state, the AZ-resident spouse receives $50 of this Ca-source
    income and it must be included on the Ca return.
    2] The Ca-resident taxpayer’s remaining $50 is taxable in Ca.
    Spouse: AZ resident
    a) The $100 interest is AZ-source income since the taxpayer is an AZ resident.
    1] Since AZ is a community property state, the CA-taxpayer receives $50 of this AZ-source income
    and it must be included on the Ca return since it is world-wide income to the Ca-resident taxpayer.
    2] The spouse’s remaining $50 is not taxable in Ca as it is AZ-source income

    Total Ca taxable interest in Column E: $150 as shown in the CA(540NR) figure below.

    California Nonresident Form CA (540NR) – Adjustments
    Part I Residency Information
    During 2019
    1 My California Residency (check one)
    a myself Nonresident Part-Year Resident X Resident
    b Spouse X Nonresident Part-Year Resident Resident
    Yourself Spouse/RDP
    2a I was domiciled in (enter two letter code) CA AZ
    5 I was a CA resident the entire year (enter state of residence) CA AZ
    6 The number of days I spent in CA for any purpose was: 365 0
    7 I owned a home/property in CA (Enter Y for yes, N for no) N N
    PART II Income Adjustment Schedule A B C D E
    Section A – Income Federal Amounts
    (Taxable amount from your Fed Tax Rtn)
    Subtractions
    (difference between Ca & Fed law)
    Additions
    (difference between Ca & Fed law)
    Total amounts using Ca law as if you were a Ca resident (Subtract col B from col A; add col C to the result) CA amounts
    (Income earned or rcvd as a Ca resident and income earned or rcvd from Ca sources as a nonresident)
    1 Wages, salaries, tips, etc
    2 Interest income 200 200 150
    Example 4: The taxpayer lives in a community property state and the spouse lives in a separate property state.
    They earned $400 capital gains (intangible) in a joint CA account (Ca source income). They each receive one-half ($200) of the income.
    Taxpayer: Ca resident
    a) The $200 income is Ca-source income since the taxpayer is a Ca resident.
    1] Since Ca is a community property state, the MT-resident spouse receives $100 of this Ca-source
    income and it must be included on the Ca return.
    2] The taxpayer’s remaining $100 is taxable in Ca.
    Spouse: MT resident
    a) The $200 interest becomes MT-source income since the taxpayer is an MT resident.
    1] Since MT is a separate property state, the CA-resident taxpayer receives $0 of this MT-source
    income.
    2] The MT-resident spouse’s $200 is not taxable in Ca as it is MT-source income

    Total Ca taxable interest in Column E: $200 as shown in the CA(540NR) figure below.

    California Nonresident Form CA (540NR) – Adjustments
    Part I Residency Information
    During 2019
    1 My California Residency (check one)
    a myself Nonresident Part-Year Resident X Resident
    b Spouse X Nonresident Part-Year Resident Resident
    Yourself Spouse/RDP
    2a I was domiciled in (enter two letter code) CA MT
    5 I was a CA resident the entire year (enter state of residence) CA MT
    6 The number of days I spent in CA for any purpose was: 365 0
    7 I owned a home/property in CA (Enter Y for yes, N for no) N N
    PART II Income Adjustment Schedule A B C D E
    Section A - Income Federal Amounts
    (Taxable amount from your Fed Tax Rtn)
    Subtractions
    (difference between Ca & Fed law)
    Additions
    (difference between Ca & Fed law)
    Total amounts using Ca law as if you were a Ca resident (Subtract col B from col A; add col C to the result) CA amounts
    (Income earned or rcvd as a Ca resident and income earned or rcvd from Ca sources as a nonresident)
    1 Wages, salaries, tips, etc
    2 Interest income 400 400 200

    #2
    "Are the following four examples in the attachment word document correct regarding a California tax return "

    I find your question too open-ended and the detail, including the complicated tabular formats, too overwhelming.

    Let's turn it around - why do you think any of the four examples might not be correct? Or what specific item did you not understand? What is the source of these worksheets? A professional tax software program? Or is this just a homework assignment?

    I'd be happy to try to respond to more specific questions. Maybe others will have the time to trouble-shoot and debug your examples from start to finish, I guess we'll see.
    "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard

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      #3
      welcome to the TTB website. Think a California tax specialist reply poster can help with your scenario.

      Very impressive display of a word document. How did you add this to your post?
      Always cite your source for support to defend your opinion

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        #4
        1] I wanted to verify the four examples, particularly examples 1 & 3, treated the income correctly. I included the detail to be precise. An H&R Block Ca Nonresident Returns text book treats the income as shown in the examples, but I found a "2016 Spidell Publishing Inc Ca Taxation of New Residents and Nonresidents" document that had a difference for examples 1 & 3. Ca FTB pubs 1031 (Guidance for Determining Resident Status) and 1100 (Taxation of Nonresident and Individuals Who Change Residency) did not cover the examples. So I was just looking for verification.

        2] I received one response on the Tax Research Center message board to the same question that agreed with the examples.

        3] I created the the worksheets by simply typing up the 2019 CA(540NR) tax form on a word document. I pasted the worksheets to the message board and they pasted perfectly.

        Thanks

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          #5
          Originally posted by TAXNJ View Post
          Think a California tax specialist reply poster can help with your scenario.
          Think it hasn't happened yet.

          I'm still waiting for something more specific than "I found a "2016 Spidell Publishing Inc Ca Taxation of New Residents and Nonresidents" document that had a difference for examples 1 & 3."

          What was the difference?

          "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard

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