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  • Greenbriar
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 189

    #1

    College student 2018 federal income tax

    My first opportunity at calculating 2018 income tax for a full time college student who will earn about 18,000. Unless I'm missing something, he gets the 12,000 std deduction and his tax is 600. Please, correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
  • TaxGuyBill
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 2324

    #2
    Assuming all of his income is from a W-2 job, yes, that sounds correct.

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    • Greenbriar
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 189

      #3
      Originally posted by TaxGuyBill
      Assuming all of his income is from a W-2 job, yes, that sounds correct.
      Yes, I should have stated it is W-2 income. Thanks much.

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      • taxmom34
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 732

        #4
        Is the student exemption still available on W4? when I was doing tax returns back in the day, most students claimed this when getting a job and when tax time came they owed instead of a refund.

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        • Greenbriar
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 189

          #5
          Originally posted by taxmom34
          Is the student exemption still available on W4? when I was doing tax returns back in the day, most students claimed this when getting a job and when tax time came they owed instead of a refund.
          Great point but I can't find anything this morning addressing the standard deduction for college student claimed by parents for 2018.

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          • Greenbriar
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 189

            #6
            TTB's "What New" page 1-1 crossed out the reference in 2017 to a dependent's standard deduction being greater than $1,050 or earned income plus $350. Also, on the Inflation Adjusted Amounts chart, page 1-2, this item is blank - and not a zero as on other 2018 lines - which is hard to interpret.

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            • spanel
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 845

              #7
              Originally posted by Greenbriar
              My first opportunity at calculating 2018 income tax for a full time college student who will earn about 18,000. Unless I'm missing something, he gets the 12,000 std deduction and his tax is 600. Please, correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
              Mostly likely your wrong because you forgot subtract any Education Credits. Most likely they will not owe anything/get a refund.

              Chris

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              • Greenbriar
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 189

                #8
                Originally posted by Greenbriar
                TTB's "What New" page 1-1 crossed out the reference in 2017 to a dependent's standard deduction being greater than $1,050 or earned income plus $350. Also, on the Inflation Adjusted Amounts chart, page 1-2, this item is blank - and not a zero as on other 2018 lines - which is hard to interpret.
                A later version of the Inflation Adjusted Amounts chart shows the same standard deduct ion in 2018 as in 2017. I also found an article in Forbes confirming same. Just wish I could find something on the IRS site addressing this. Thanks to all who commented.

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                • New York Enrolled Agent
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1532

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Greenbriar
                  A later version of the Inflation Adjusted Amounts chart shows the same standard deduct ion in 2018 as in 2017. I also found an article in Forbes confirming same. Just wish I could find something on the IRS site addressing this. Thanks to all who commented.
                  How about Rev Procedure 2018-18?

                  (2) Dependent . For taxable years beginning in 2018, the standard deduction amount under Sec. 63(c)(5) for an individual who may be claimed as a dependent by another taxpayer cannot exceed the greater of (1) $1,050, or (2) the sum of $350 and the individual's earned income.

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                  • Rapid Robert
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 1986

                    #10
                    Originally posted by spanel
                    Mostly likely your wrong because you forgot subtract any Education Credits. Most likely they will not owe anything/get a refund.
                    It's not clear from the original post if the student is a dependent, in which case it might be more beneficial to the family if the parents take any education credits.

                    As for the main topic, didn't we have a long thread about this just recently?

                    The ONLY thing that changed for dependent standard deduction in 2018 is the new upper limit of $12K instead of $6,500. Everything else about a dependent standard deduction is exactly the same as it was before. The maximum possible standard deduction for a dependent has always (within my memory, at least) been the same as any other single resident filer. The only difference from a non-dependent is that it can be lower than the max in some cases.

                    I don't know why people keep on looking for anything more. The last time I looked at TheTaxBook, this information was correctly reflected.
                    Last edited by Rapid Robert; 09-10-2018, 12:31 PM.
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                    • macheek
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3

                      #11
                      Originally posted by New York Enrolled Agent
                      How about Rev Procedure 2018-18?

                      (2) Dependent . For taxable years beginning in 2018, the standard deduction amount under Sec. 63(c)(5) for an individual who may be claimed as a dependent by another taxpayer cannot exceed the greater of (1) $1,050, or (2) the sum of $350 and the individual's earned income.
                      this does not mention any max or upper limit. So, if the students earned income is $20,000, then their standard deduction is $20,350?

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                      • TaxGuyBill
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 2324

                        #12
                        Originally posted by macheek
                        this does not mention any max or upper limit. So, if the students earned income is $20,000, then their standard deduction is $20,350?
                        No, it says it can not EXCEED those numbers. If you read ยง63(c)(5), it is for limiting the Basic Standard Deduction.

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                        • Greenbriar
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 189

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rapid Robert
                          It's not clear from the original post if the student is a dependent, in which case it might be more beneficial to the family if the parents take any education credits.
                          Sorry, I should have been stated that the student is under 21, full time college, claimed by his parents and his W2 income is about $18,000. Parents AGI is approx $130,000. They are not my clients so I'm not sure what they are going to do for 2018. The student asked me out of curiosity what I thought the refund might be and this is my first go at it under new tax law.

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                          • spanel
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 845

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Greenbriar
                            Sorry, I should have been stated that the student is under 21, full time college, claimed by his parents and his W2 income is about $18,000. Parents AGI is approx $130,000. They are not my clients so I'm not sure what they are going to do for 2018. The student asked me out of curiosity what I thought the refund might be and this is my first go at it under new tax law.
                            They are NOT your clients?!? What are you doing giving advise and posting on this site?

                            Also, I would not rush to the opinion that the parents are going to claim him as he does make $18000. That would be enough to possibly support himself.

                            Chris

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                            • Greenbriar
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 189

                              #15
                              He is my grandson and I was posting a theoretical question.

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