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  • Kram BergGold
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 2112

    #1

    Amending Now?

    I have two Forms 1040X to file. Due to the government shutdown, I am thinking it is better to not mail these in until the shutdown is over.
    What is your opinion?
  • ATSMAN
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 2415

    #2
    Originally posted by Kram BergGold
    I have two Forms 1040X to file. Due to the government shutdown, I am thinking it is better to not mail these in until the shutdown is over.
    What is your opinion?
    I agree with you because 1040X can't be e-filed and IRS already said that paper filings will be stacked up during shutdown. Hopefully shutdown will end today!
    Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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    • kathyc2
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 1947

      #3
      I don't understand why waiting to mail it would get the return processed any faster?

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      • Rapid Robert
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 1983

        #4
        Originally posted by kathyc2
        I don't understand why waiting to mail it would get the return processed any faster?
        Same here. OP says he "thinks it would be better" not to mail, but does not explain why he thinks that. Then ATSMAN implies that the return mailed in later will somehow skip to the front of the line, over the returns that "stack up", when in fact the only reasonable approach to processing would be FIFO.

        Why don't you be honest, tell the client you have no clue what will happen, and let them decide when to mail. I never mail returns for my clients anyway, I don't want to take responsibility for something I have no control over. Just give them the envelope.
        "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
        "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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        • Kram BergGold
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 2112

          #5
          My Concern

          My fear is that a letter in the stack will have a greater probability of getting lost. I should have stated my reason for concern.

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          • Rapid Robert
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 1983

            #6
            Originally posted by FEDUKE404
            FWIW: Even without a government shutdown, it was somewhere around six months from the original submission to IRS Office A that client received a letter from IRS Office B requesting the "necessary forms." From start to finish, it took almost a year for the correct refund to be issued to the client.
            You get the government you voted for.
            "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
            "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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            • ATSMAN
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 2415

              #7
              Originally posted by Rapid Robert
              You get the government you voted for.
              It was equally bad regardless of the party in power. I guess it is just the nature of the business!
              Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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              • Rapid Robert
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2015
                • 1983

                #8
                Originally posted by ATSMAN
                It was equally bad regardless of the party in power. I guess it is just the nature of the business!
                Can you provide any facts to back that up? Back before 2010, how many complaints about routine amended returns taking over half a year were there?

                Only one party has controlled Congressional spending since 2010. You get the government you voted for. Is this a political comment? You decide. It's definitely about effective tax administration, and serving the needs of the taxpayer, which I believe are considered legitimate topics for discussion at this board.

                How would your service to your own clients change if you had to cut your current fees 18%? Do you think, maybe some of these 13,000 employees might have been involved in processing amended returns?

                "The IRS has been targeted for sharp funding cuts since 2010. Its current budget of $11.2 billion is 18 percent below the 2010 level, after adjusting for inflation.[5] As most IRS funding goes to staffing, the cuts have forced the IRS to dramatically reduce its workforce; the agency lost roughly 13,000 employees — around 14 percent of its workforce — between 2010 and 2016.[6] "

                https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...spite-mnuchins

                Taxpayer Advocate, who we might suspect is non partisan, states IRS funding cuts are the biggest single problem facing taxpayers.
                "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
                "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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                • ATSMAN
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 2415

                  #9
                  I guess I touched a raw nerve!

                  I am not a fan of either party. In my personal experience IRS has been the same regardless who was in power.
                  Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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