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    EIC Question: Concern

    Okay - Established client walks in the door. HOH 1 child.
    $108K W2 employee
    Opens a Franchise Gym only to sell a 18 months later.

    -97k Loss on Gym this year - 2016. Very well documented.
    Depreciation was a huge help (40k from original startup equip; etc).

    $4,993 Gambling winnings

    AGI = 16k - Ain't that a kicker.
    18k Schedule A - including gambling losses
    $Zero Taxable.

    So.. EIC kicks in and awards $3,373.00
    Add $1,000 for Additional Child Tax Credit
    on top of his $21,322 in Federal Withholding makes his Refund $25k. Nice. BUT
    I question the EIC. I went through the questions and math just doesn't seem right.
    On one hand he had earned income of $108k
    But on the Business he had earned income of (-$97k)
    Why wouldn't the W2 earned income rule out all other?
    How to interpret ? Combined or any Individual?

    Thoughts or reference to a defining moment of clarity!? lol I don't feel comfortable hitting send on this one - and he's fine if the $3373 comes off - he just doesn't want ANY issues. But - if he's 'entitled' then - ???

    Thanks

    Thanks??
    PS - How's everyone holding up?
    Matthew Jones
    Tax Preparation
    Computer Consultant


    Tax Season is here!
    Make sure everything is working, extra ink or toner is available, Advil in top drawer!


    #2
    Okay. Don't file until you are comfortable.

    p.s. If one gets a solid state disc drive and wanted to mirror the drive do they need another solid state or non solid state disc drive?
    Last edited by TAXNJ; 04-09-2017, 03:19 PM.
    Always cite your source for support to defend your opinion

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      #3
      Originally posted by MAJ View Post
      Why wouldn't the W2 earned income rule out all other?
      Because earned income includes self-employed income. Look at your EIC worksheet, line 5, or better look at all the line to understand better how the final figure for earned income is arrived.

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        #4
        You said he sold the business which would have triggered depreciation recapture and maybe a 4797 gain? Be sure you have that down correctly before proceeding, which you have probably already done. And a negative income from Sche C would offset W-2 earnings for EIC.

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          #5
          a legitimate loss on business will subtract from w-2 income for EIC. Do check that depreciation and make sure that is correct since out of business. I even had one like this go through an audit--that was ok although they questioned the business loss, but as long as it is well documented, you are good!!

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