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  • Super Mom
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 1151

    #1

    Another rental expense question

    Can you tell I'm really trying to help this lady? She is elderly, has no federal income tax and I'm trying to wipe out the little state tax she has so she won't have to pay. She got a concealed carry permit and a gun solely because she is often paid rents in cash to carry in her car. She only keeps the gun in her car and for that reason. Obviously, she would use it for any kind of protection while in her car, but carrying the money is what made her concerned. Can I deduct that as a rental expense?
  • Justataxguy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 153

    #2
    Possibly a security expense?

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    • spanel
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 845

      #3
      Originally posted by Super Mom
      Can you tell I'm really trying to help this lady? She is elderly, has no federal income tax and I'm trying to wipe out the little state tax she has so she won't have to pay. She got a concealed carry permit and a gun solely because she is often paid rents in cash to carry in her car. She only keeps the gun in her car and for that reason. Obviously, she would use it for any kind of protection while in her car, but carrying the money is what made her concerned. Can I deduct that as a rental expense?
      Ordinary and Necessary? I would go with no.

      You have deducted the mileage correct?

      Chris

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      • Super Mom
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 1151

        #4
        Originally posted by spanel
        Ordinary and Necessary? I would go with no.

        You have deducted the mileage correct?

        Chris
        Yeah I did get the mileage. Thanks!!

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        • Kram BergGold
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 2112

          #5
          Take It

          In 2016 the gun was not used either personally or for business. So I would take it since she only bought it for protecting her rents. However, had she used it once for personal purposes like someone was trying to steal something when she was not carrying rents and there was no usage when carrying rents then I would not take it because the percentage was 100% personal.

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          • taxea
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 4292

            #6
            I would liken this to a uniform expense. If it can be worn in public or is worn when not working then it is not deductible. This is a personal safety item that she opted to purchase. It is not ordinary and necessary to the business and is very amenable to personal use.
            Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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            • Burke
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 7068

              #7
              I totally agree. Won't pass the smell test.

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              • Super Mom
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 1151

                #8
                Thanks everyone!! Have a good day!!

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                • mactoolsix
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 544

                  #9
                  Don't forget to deduct her sunglasses which she only uses to drive the car to collect the rent money.

                  (sorry, I couldn't resist!)

                  But I must admit, you gave it the old college try . . .

                  Mike

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