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  • ttbtaxes
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 580

    #16
    Over the many years that I have been practicing, I have consciously made a choice to reduce my exposure by excluding the type of clients I take on. That comes with its own cost of less work and therefore less income.

    I've run as fast as I could from clients who could potentially "poison the well". People with Schedule Cs that historically have losses and EITC are two I decided not to do to begin with or drop once they met that profile. Where I practice, the income levels cause AMT issues rather than EITC.

    We all have our ox to gore.

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    • Rapid Robert
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2015
      • 1986

      #17
      IRS cannot regulate fees

      Originally posted by FEDUKE404
      Any preparer fees in any way, shape, or form related to amount of refund (credit) is a seriously large "NO!!"FE
      That became no longer true over 2.5 years ago. In general, IRS can only regulate practice before IRS, not return preparation. And Circ. 230 only applies to a select subset of preparers anyway.

      From tax update bulletin published by TheTaxBook (TTB). Specifically, they write in summary, (Ridgely, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, July 16, 2014):

      "The court issued a permanent injunction against IRS for regulating contingent fee arrangements with regard to ordinary refund claims."
      "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
      "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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      • Twin Turbo Z
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 373

        #18
        Originally posted by ttbtaxes
        Over the many years that I have been practicing, I have consciously made a choice to reduce my exposure by excluding the type of clients I take on. That comes with its own cost of less work and therefore less income.

        I've run as fast as I could from clients who could potentially "poison the well". People with Schedule Cs that historically have losses and EITC are two I decided not to do to begin with or drop once they met that profile. Where I practice, the income levels cause AMT issues rather than EITC.

        We all have our ox to gore.
        Must be the blue west coast and east coast Some of us live in the rust belt where the past 8 years has ruined it !! Oh sorry, I was not very PC. Its a joke !!!! or is it ???

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        • TAXNJ
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 2106

          #19
          Originally posted by Rapid Robert
          That became no longer true over 2.5 years ago. In general, IRS can only regulate practice before IRS, not return preparation. And Circ. 230 only applies to a select subset of preparers anyway.

          From tax update bulletin published by TheTaxBook (TTB). Specifically, they write in summary, (Ridgely, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, July 16, 2014):

          "The court issued a permanent injunction against IRS for regulating contingent fee arrangements with regard to ordinary refund claims."
          Yes, but what do you mean by "And Circ. 230 only applies to a select subset of preparers anyway."

          thanks
          Always cite your source for support to defend your opinion

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          • Rapid Robert
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 1986

            #20
            Originally posted by TAXNJ
            Yes, but what do you mean by "And Circ. 230 only applies to a select subset of preparers anyway."

            thanks
            I mean, IRS tried to make Circ. 230 apply to all preparers (RTRP) and was shot down by the courts.
            "You said it, they'll never know the difference. Come on, we'll paint our way out!" - Moe Howard
            "That's enough! When you didn't know what you were talking about, you really had something! [to Curly]" -Moe Howard

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            • Justataxguy
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 153

              #21
              Originally posted by Snaggletooth
              I don't know where ttbtaxes practices, but it is certainly not in the rural south. With the expansion of EIC into the $50,000 income level, some 85% of the population in my town and surrounding countryside is within this income level. Good, solid livable homes can be bought here for less than $80K, and "middle income" is a job between $12 and $15 per hour.
              Pretty much the same in my area.

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