Per Diem Contract Labor

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  • equinecpa
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 578

    #1

    Per Diem Contract Labor

    Client hires temporary help for out of town events. Pays the help as contract labor and pays for their food via a per diem. Is this per diem deductible? Or is a per diem only deductible for employees?
  • DaveO
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1453

    #2
    I would think if he adds it to their 1099 income it would be deductible as labor, otherwise no.
    In other words, a democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it.
    Alexis de Tocqueville

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    • TaxGuyBill
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 2324

      #3
      Do the contractors live in the event area (the contractors' Tax Home), or are the contractors also out-of-town?

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      • equinecpa
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 578

        #4
        Contractors live in taxpayers tax home area-travel with taxpayer to events. Taxpayer pays lodging and per diem. They didn't 1099 the contractors for the per diem. It seems all I read regarding per diem allowances refers to taxpayers and employees not subcontractors-hence the question.

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        • TaxGuyBill
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 2324

          #5
          Yes, the business can deduct the lodging and 50% of the meal Per Diem.

          Those are basically part of a "reimbursement" plan (see ยง1.62-2).




          Yes, an employer can have a Reimbursement Plan with an Independent Contractor. Generally, a Per Diem is part of an Accountable Plan, and unless specifically agreed otherwise, the employer is subject to the 50% limitation (it is not fully deductible as part of the payment to the contractor, and does not go on the 1099).

          https://www.irs.gov/publications/p46...blink100034152 (it is in the Regs somewhere, but is tricky to find).

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          • taxea
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 4292

            #6
            the contractor could take 100% of the meals if they are meals eaten on the job site.
            Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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            • spanel
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 845

              #7
              Originally posted by taxea
              the contractor could take 100% of the meals if they are meals eaten on the job site.
              Why would you pay for the contractors anything? Unless you are blurring the line between contractor and employee??

              Chris

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