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  • AZ-Tax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 2604

    #1

    Is this a deprecable asset?

    TP buys a house for flipping back in 2008 but still owns it. Never rented it nor lived in it. Never had a client who just purchased a house and never rented it or nor lived in it.
  • FEDUKE404
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3646

    #2
    Vote "no"

    Originally posted by AZ-Tax
    TP buys a house for flipping back in 2008 but still owns it. Never rented it nor lived in it. Never had a client who just purchased a house and never rented it or nor lived in it.
    Weird situation. Your client must have lots of $$ to fling around.

    Hopefully the house (at least in theory) qualifies as a "second residence" ?

    I don't see any way depreciation could be a factor here.

    FE

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    • AZ-Tax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 2604

      #3
      What about owning 3 house to be flipped?

      Originally posted by FEDUKE404
      Weird situation. Your client must have lots of $$ to fling around.

      Hopefully the house (at least in theory) qualifies as a "second residence" ?

      I don't see any way depreciation could be a factor here.

      FE
      Assume a TP is a house flipper and purchased 3 residential houses. Never rented nor lived in any. Would any of the houses be depreciable?

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      • FEDUKE404
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 3646

        #4
        Reason to depreciate is ? ?

        Originally posted by AZ-Tax
        Assume a TP is a house flipper and purchased 3 residential houses. Never rented nor lived in any. Would any of the houses be depreciable?
        Just curious, whether one or three houses, how would you plan to legitimize depreciation on any non-business asset ? ?

        FE

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        • AZ-Tax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 2604

          #5
          Maybe that is the question, is it considered a business?

          Originally posted by FEDUKE404
          Just curious, whether one or three houses, how would you plan to legitimize depreciation on any non-business asset ? ?

          FE
          Maybe that is the question that needs to be answered, is it considered a business for the TP? In AZ if you sell a min number of cars and/or trucks, you are required to obtain a dealer license and I am sure similar laws exist in other states.

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          • Rapid Robert
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 1983

            #6
            Originally posted by AZ-Tax
            Assume a TP is a house flipper and purchased 3 residential houses. Never rented nor lived in any. Would any of the houses be depreciable?
            Non-depreciable inventory.
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            • AZ-Tax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 2604

              #7
              Installment Sale income gain under Sect 1231 gain.

              Originally posted by Rapid Robert
              Non-depreciable inventory.
              Upon viewing 2014 tax return prepared by previous preparer, has the "installment sale income" as Sect 1231 Gain.

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              • taxmom34
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 732

                #8
                original post you said he still owns this house. now he sold it on an installment sale in 2014? is this same house?

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                • FEDUKE404
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3646

                  #9
                  Phantom sale

                  Originally posted by taxmom34
                  original post you said he still owns this house. now he sold it on an installment sale in 2014? is this same house?

                  Darn good question!!

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                  • AZ-Tax
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2604

                    #10
                    He does again via repo

                    Originally posted by taxmom34
                    original post you said he still owns this house. now he sold it on an installment sale in 2014? is this same house?
                    He does again via repo. Upon looking at the previous tax returns, the preparer never took depreciation which maybe is correct.

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                    • Burke
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 7068

                      #11
                      See Rapid Roberts response. This is NOT depreciable property. It is unsold inventory. When he sells it, he gets to deduct his purchase cost plus improvements.

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                      • taxmom34
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 732

                        #12
                        agree with Burke. and if he has 3 properties he may be subject to SE when he sells.

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