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  • TAX4US
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 551

    #1

    Clergy w-2

    To all my clergy friends. Does the health ins paid by the church direct to the ins co show up on the W-2 at all? I have been asked to prepare some clergy W-2's. I have everything covered but this issue still gives me a problem. What do you say?
  • kathyc2
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 1947

    #2
    Is it a group plan or an individual plan?

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    • TAX4US
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 551

      #3
      My understanding is that the church belongs to a national group. The national group contracts for the insurance and passes the cost out accordingly. if this helps.

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      • kathyc2
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2015
        • 1947

        #4
        Originally posted by TAX4US
        My understanding is that the church belongs to a national group. The national group contracts for the insurance and passes the cost out accordingly. if this helps.
        If it's a group plan that qualifies as a non-taxable fringe benefit, I don't think it needs to be treated differently than any other non-church business.

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        • Golden Rocket
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 519

          #5
          Local Autonomy or Not

          I believe the treatment depends on who the employer really is. Different denominations of religions vary in their entity structure based on their religious beliefs.

          For example, each local congregation of Missionary Baptists is autonomous and free of control by an organizational superstructure. The Methodist Church has such a superstructure. One reliable test is "who owns the building". The Methodist church building in most towns is titled to the Regional Bishop of the Methodist Church. It is titled to local ownership in the case of Missionary Baptists.

          A local church can be autonomous and still be a member of a denominational convention, and form a buying "group" for medical insurance and retirement plans. However, even so, the minister's employer is still the local church and NOT the convention. I would say if the church is part of an organizational superstructure, then the church superstructure itself is the employer and a homogenous plan covering all local subdivisions can be treated as a group plan.

          Without getting into religious doctrine, there are arguments that can be made for or against a superstructure versus local control. And as I am not either a Missionary Baptist or a Methodist, my apologies to anyone if I have misrepresented any facts regarding same.

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          • DonB
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 281

            #6
            Originally posted by kathyc2
            If it's a group plan that qualifies as a non-taxable fringe benefit, I don't think it needs to be treated differently than any other non-church business.
            I believe it would be a non-taxable fringe as a group or an individual plan if paid directly by the church (employer).

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            • TaxGuyBill
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 2321

              #7
              I agree, it's a non-taxable fringe benefit.

              However, I suspect that because the church is part of a large national group of churches, that you may need to report the value of the insurance in box 12 using Code DD.

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              • TaxGuyBill
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 2321

                #8
                Originally posted by DonB
                I believe it would be a non-taxable fringe as a group or an individual plan if paid directly by the church (employer).
                I hope they aren't reimbursing Individual policies. That could be trouble with the ACA penalty.

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