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  • zeros
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 921

    #1

    Sale of Personal Residence (Cabin) to Son

    Client is selling his personal residence which is a cabin to his son. He discounted it by $40K. Would this in any way be a taxable event of any kind? Just wondering. The profit would be about $70K as he has held it for many years.
  • ATSMAN
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 2415

    #2
    Originally posted by zeros
    Client is selling his personal residence which is a cabin to his son. He discounted it by $40K. Would this in any way be a taxable event of any kind? Just wondering. The profit would be about $70K as he has held it for many years.
    Is this the father's primary residence or a vacation home?
    Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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    • Lion
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 4698

      #3
      Gift tax return.

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      • ATSMAN
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 2415

        #4
        Originally posted by Lion
        Gift tax return.
        Typically a parent gifts the equity to the child to help them out. I wonder how many people fill out a gift tax return?
        Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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        • TAXNJ
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 2106

          #5
          Many

          Originally posted by ATSMAN
          Typically a parent gifts the equity to the child to help them out. I wonder how many people fill out a gift tax return?
          NOTE: after re-reading the original post - it is a "sale" not "gift". No gift tax return.

          Think there are many. Seems that some people have an attorney who may not be aware of tax consequences and only transfers title and deed for a $1.

          That's why it is important to have a competent tax advisor and tax attorney.
          Last edited by TAXNJ; 06-19-2015, 09:04 AM.
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          • zeros
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 921

            #6
            See Original Post -Personal Residence

            Originally posted by ATSMAN
            Is this the father's primary residence or a vacation home?
            His personal residence as stated in OP.

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            • Burke
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 7068

              #7
              Originally posted by zeros
              Client is selling his personal residence which is a cabin to his son. He discounted it by $40K. Would this in any way be a taxable event of any kind? Just wondering. The profit would be about $70K as he has held it for many years.
              If it was his primary (main) home, he would qualify for 121 exclusion. It is a taxable event subject to exclusion if he qualifies. If not his main home, it is a capital gain. Doesn't appear that a loss is involved in this case.

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              • Kram BergGold
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2006
                • 2112

                #8
                Gift/Sale

                You report the sale and claim the 121 exclusion on the $70k profit (assuming he qualifies) and file a gift tax return to report the $40k gift.

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                • TAXNJ
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 2106

                  #9
                  Market price

                  Originally posted by Kram BergGold
                  You report the sale and claim the 121 exclusion on the $70k profit (assuming he qualifies) and file a gift tax return to report the $40k gift.
                  Would this apply when selling a home and asking market price of $800k and buyer offers $750k?

                  Would think the original post definition of "discount" is important. Is the "discount" because the sale is to family member or is it what the house market offers in negotiating a offering price. Based on the answer, the type of return(s) to be filed.
                  Always cite your source for support to defend your opinion

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                  • ATSMAN
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 2415

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TAXNJ
                    Would this apply when selling a home and asking market price of $800k and buyer offers $750k?

                    Would think the original post definition of "discount" is important. Is the "discount" because the sale is to family member or is it what the house market offers in negotiating a offering price. Based on the answer, the type of return(s) to be filed.
                    I would say no when you are selling to a stranger and that is just the bargain you struck to close the deal.

                    But the OP mentioned the purchaser was his son and the reduction in price was $40K. That is more like a gift of equity in my opinion.
                    Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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                    • Roberts
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 807

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ATSMAN
                      I would say no when you are selling to a stranger and that is just the bargain you struck to close the deal.

                      But the OP mentioned the purchaser was his son and the reduction in price was $40K. That is more like a gift of equity in my opinion.
                      yep - "sale to related party" has different rules.

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                      • TAXNJ
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2106

                        #12
                        Yes

                        Originally posted by Roberts
                        yep - "sale to related party" has different rules.
                        Yes, apply to the specific situation

                        much research on this issue. In general, here is one:

                        http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...relatives.html
                        Always cite your source for support to defend your opinion

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