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    #16
    Originally posted by FEDUKE404 View Post
    when/why a Code V ("Income from Exercise of Nonstatutory Stock Options") does or does not appear in Box 12 of the employees W2.
    Page 19 of the W2 instructions:


    And TTB p. 6-18 under "Employer Reporting."

    It used to seem that these felt like reinventing the wheel each time, but this year the reporting has been really good. I've had ISOs, NSOs, ESPPs, RSUs this year, but much better and more uniform documentation.

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      #17
      Your client probably received an explanatory letter that he needs to bring you, or get a copy from his HR and bring you. And, use this opportunity to train him to keep ALL documents regarding his stock options, of every kind, now and in the future.

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        #18
        Originally posted by FEDUKE404 View Post
        I'm still a bit confused as to when/why a Code V ("Income from Exercise of Nonstatutory Stock Options") does or does not appear in Box 12 of the employees W2.
        Employee stock options are either ISO, ESPP, or everything else. "Everything else" are all nonstatutory, but usually called NQSO (for Non-Qualified Stock Options).

        ESPP is never taxed on exercise, only on sale, and they're exempt from FICA. Form 3922 is usually required to be issued on exercise (but only because it's common to put the shares into a brokerage account). It's never required that they be sold on exercise, since the cost has already been set aside out of paychecks, but many people make an investment decision to sell on exercise.

        ISO isn't subject to regular income tax on exercise, but may be subject to AMT. They're also exempt from FICA. It's common for people to sell some immediately at exercise, in order to cover the option's exercise price, but it's not necessary. Form 3921 is issued on exercise.

        NQSOs are generally taxable at exercise, are subject to both FICA and withholding, and are the only ones that should be reported in Box 12 as code V. In theory, the employer could gross-up by paying the employee's FICA and withholding out of payroll, and adding these additional amounts to the employee's wages, but I've never seen that done. Instead, they contractually get the right to sell enough of the exercised shares to cover the payroll taxes. Thus, when you see the code V, you should expect there to be a sale.

        RSUs, RSAs, etc. are not stock options at all, though they may look similar in terms of cash flow. Since they're not options, they shouldn't be reported as code V. RSUs may or may not result in actual stock ownership, so it's possible to get an RSU that looks more like a cash bonus.

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          #19
          Clear as mud

          Originally posted by Gary2 View Post
          Employee stock options are either ISO, ESPP, or everything else. "Everything else" are all nonstatutory, but usually called NQSO (for Non-Qualified Stock Options).

          ESPP is never taxed on exercise, only on sale, and they're exempt from FICA. Form 3922 is usually required to be issued on exercise (but only because it's common to put the shares into a brokerage account). It's never required that they be sold on exercise, since the cost has already been set aside out of paychecks, but many people make an investment decision to sell on exercise.

          ISO isn't subject to regular income tax on exercise, but may be subject to AMT. They're also exempt from FICA. It's common for people to sell some immediately at exercise, in order to cover the option's exercise price, but it's not necessary. Form 3921 is issued on exercise.

          NQSOs are generally taxable at exercise, are subject to both FICA and withholding, and are the only ones that should be reported in Box 12 as code V. In theory, the employer could gross-up by paying the employee's FICA and withholding out of payroll, and adding these additional amounts to the employee's wages, but I've never seen that done. Instead, they contractually get the right to sell enough of the exercised shares to cover the payroll taxes. Thus, when you see the code V, you should expect there to be a sale.

          RSUs, RSAs, etc. are not stock options at all, though they may look similar in terms of cash flow. Since they're not options, they shouldn't be reported as code V. RSUs may or may not result in actual stock ownership, so it's possible to get an RSU that looks more like a cash bonus.
          With all due respect, how is an "ordinary" tax person supposed to understand all of this gibberish? ? ?

          It would appear the main reason that some option exercise information (of the nonstatutory type) ever appears with Code V on the W2 is to deal with related possible AMT issues. Otherwise just a mere coincidence that the same number can also help with tracking down the elusive ordinary income.

          Otherwise, to get the needed information (re amount of ordinary income from those other types of stock exercise) the tax person must hope for a client who is "on top of things" and/or has a well-oiled HR department to provide the necessary information to the employee. If not, the ordinary income numbers can rattle around quietly within the W2.

          Sounds like a fine way to do things. To the best of my knowledge, I have never encountered either a Form 3921 or a Form 3922 although I do see a couple of "Code Vs" each tax season.

          Good grief - and I thought fighting through a "simple" Form 1098-T was problematic.

          FE

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            #20
            Best resource for understanding stock options I've found is http://www.mystockoptions.com/articl...7D1CAC6F762CB4 .

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              #21
              Originally posted by Gary2 View Post
              Employee stock options are either ISO, ESPP, or everything else. "Everything else" are all nonstatutory, but usually called NQSO (for Non-Qualified Stock Options).

              ESPP is never taxed on exercise, only on sale, and they're exempt from FICA. Form 3922 is usually required to be issued on exercise (but only because it's common to put the shares into a brokerage account). It's never required that they be sold on exercise, since the cost has already been set aside out of paychecks, but many people make an investment decision to sell on exercise.

              ISO isn't subject to regular income tax on exercise, but may be subject to AMT. They're also exempt from FICA. It's common for people to sell some immediately at exercise, in order to cover the option's exercise price, but it's not necessary. Form 3921 is issued on exercise.

              NQSOs are generally taxable at exercise, are subject to both FICA and withholding, and are the only ones that should be reported in Box 12 as code V. In theory, the employer could gross-up by paying the employee's FICA and withholding out of payroll, and adding these additional amounts to the employee's wages, but I've never seen that done. Instead, they contractually get the right to sell enough of the exercised shares to cover the payroll taxes. Thus, when you see the code V, you should expect there to be a sale.

              RSUs, RSAs, etc. are not stock options at all, though they may look similar in terms of cash flow. Since they're not options, they shouldn't be reported as code V. RSUs may or may not result in actual stock ownership, so it's possible to get an RSU that looks more like a cash bonus.
              Sorry, this very clear. ISOs NEVER appear in box 12 with a code V. I always ask for the end of year pay stub along with any of the letters received from the employer regarding the options.

              The best way to get good at something lie, this is to do a lot of them. If you don't, this definitely isn't something to be learning April 13. Extensions are our friend.

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                #22
                helpful

                thank you very much. have a great day! :-)

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