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  • TaxprepP
    Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 73

    #1

    Form 3115

    For those with tangle property filing form 3115 to accept the new regualtions with no 481(a) adjutment, I’m still a little confused on checking what under Part II on form 3115. I took the NAPT webinar, "The ABCs of Form 3115". The lecturer instructed to answer all but reading IRS Rev. Proc. 2014-54 under Reduced Filing Requirement for Small Taxpayers, it states “Part II, all lines except lines 11, 13, 14, 15, and 17”. Could use some guidance.
  • TXEA
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 329

    #2
    (4) Reduced filing requirement for qualified small taxpayers.
    (a) In general. A qualified small taxpayer, as defined in section 6.01(4)(b) of this revenue procedure, is required to complete only the following information on Form 3115 to make this change:
    (a) The identification section of page 1 (above Part I);
    (b) The signature section at the bottom of page 1;
    (c) Part I;
    (d) Part II, all lines except lines 11, 13, 14, 15, and 17;
    (e) Part IV, all lines except line 24; and
    (f) Schedule E.

    Go by the Rev Proc. - you are correct.

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    • TaxprepP
      Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 73

      #3
      Oh, thank you very much. This will make things much easier.

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      • TaxprepP
        Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 73

        #4
        Out of curiosity are you requireing theTP to sign for 3115?

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        • TXEA
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 329

          #5
          Taxpayer signs the mailed copy to Utah. The signature form for the e-file is deemed signature for the Form 3115 filed with the return (at least that is my understanding).

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          • TaxprepP
            Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 73

            #6
            Ok. Good to know, thanks.
            The firm I work will be handeling the 3115 forms for our clients. Does anyone know if more than one form 3115 can be mailed in the same envelope to Ogden, UT? Or will have to mail each form for each tax return separately?

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            • TXEA
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 329

              #7
              I am having the clients send them certified - return receipt. I don't want the liability.

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              • TaxprepP
                Member
                • Jan 2015
                • 73

                #8
                Originally posted by TXEA
                I am having the clients send them certified - return receipt. I don't want the liability.


                Do you have a lot of clients that should have forem 3115?

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                • TaxprepP
                  Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 73

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TXEA
                  (4) Reduced filing requirement for qualified small taxpayers.
                  (a) In general. A qualified small taxpayer, as defined in section 6.01(4)(b) of this revenue procedure, is required to complete only the following information on Form 3115 to make this change:
                  (a) The identification section of page 1 (above Part I);
                  (b) The signature section at the bottom of page 1;
                  (c) Part I;
                  (d) Part II, all lines except lines 11, 13, 14, 15, and 17;
                  (e) Part IV, all lines except line 24; and
                  (f) Schedule E.

                  Go by the Rev Proc. - you are correct.
                  For Part IV line 25 I I could use a little aid in some verbage best to use. I have many clients that have followed the temporary regualtions and is consistant with the final regualtions, no adjsutment. How best to expalin methodology to determin no 481(a) adjsutment?

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                  • TaxprepP
                    Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 73

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TaxprepP
                    Oh, thank you very much. This will make things much easier.
                    For those using Drake software, in attaching form 3115 as a pdf attachment what "Reference Source" and "Description" are you using?

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                    • dkss
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 226

                      #11
                      maybe this?

                      how about this?

                      The taxpayer reviewed its prior accounting records through 12-31-13 and determined there were no assets that were incorrectly capitalized under the prior regulations. Conversely, it was determined that there were no materials, supplies, or repairs that were incorrectly expensed that should have been capitalized under the new regulations.

                      No 481(a) adjustment is required.

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                      • TXEA
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 329

                        #12
                        Verbiage to use.......It depends on the change number.

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                        • TaxprepP
                          Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 73

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dkss
                          how about this?

                          The taxpayer reviewed its prior accounting records through 12-31-13 and determined there were no assets that were incorrectly capitalized under the prior regulations. Conversely, it was determined that there were no materials, supplies, or repairs that were incorrectly expensed that should have been capitalized under the new regulations.

                          No 481(a) adjustment is required.
                          I like. Sounds much better than what I came up with.
                          Thanks!

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                          • TaxprepP
                            Member
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 73

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TXEA
                            Verbiage to use.......It depends on the change number.
                            Majority of form 3115 for clients will be Change numbers: 184, 186 and 187.

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                            • TaxGuyBill
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 2321

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dkss
                              how about this?

                              The taxpayer reviewed its prior accounting records through 12-31-13 and determined there were no assets that were incorrectly capitalized under the prior regulations. Conversely, it was determined that there were no materials, supplies, or repairs that were incorrectly expensed that should have been capitalized under the new regulations.

                              No 481(a) adjustment is required.

                              If you aren't changing anything, why are you filing a 3115?

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