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  • oceanlovin'ea
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 2682

    #1

    Meals for police officers

    Is there something out there that I am not aware of about meals for police officers? Why would they get to deduct meals? Seems to me it is like truckers that drive locally. Everyone has to eat.

    Linda, EA
  • Koss
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 2256

    #2
    Police Officers

    It's an urban myth.

    There's a tax court case where the Court held that a state trooper could deduct the cost of his meals because the department required the troopers to eat their meals at the restaurants located within the tollway rest stops (and did not provide any reimbursement).

    The court's decision was based on very specific facts.

    But ever since then, cops have been hearing that they can deduct their meals while on duty.

    BMK
    Burton M. Koss
    koss@usakoss.net

    ____________________________________
    The map is not the territory...
    and the instruction book is not the process.

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    • Koss
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2005
      • 2256

      #3
      Deductions

      Now, donuts are a different matter. The cost of donuts is fully deductible.

      Donuts are an ordinary and necessary business expense of any uniformed police officer.

      BMK

      This post is a satire.
      Burton M. Koss
      koss@usakoss.net

      ____________________________________
      The map is not the territory...
      and the instruction book is not the process.

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      • Koss
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2005
        • 2256

        #4
        Christey v. United States

        It wasn't a tax court case. It was the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals.

        The rules in effect at the time were interpreted to mean that Minnesota state troopers were not allowed to bring meals from home and eat in the police car. They were required to eat at a restaurant "adjacent to the highway."

        They also had to inform the dispatcher when they were eating, and provide the phone number of the restaurant.

        This was 1988. No cell phones.

        Here's the decision:



        BMK
        Burton M. Koss
        koss@usakoss.net

        ____________________________________
        The map is not the territory...
        and the instruction book is not the process.

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        • FEDUKE404
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3648

          #5
          Also worth noting

          ...from some recent TTB posts, if you're a police officer in Hawaii you get to deduct just about everything, likely to include even the doughnuts.

          FE

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          • oceanlovin'ea
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2005
            • 2682

            #6
            I'll have to ask if that amount includes his donuts....lol

            Thanks everyone

            Linda, EA

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            • taxea
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 4292

              #7
              Koss that would apply only if they are Dunkin Donuts or was it Wenchells....I can't remember
              Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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              • David1980
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 1703

                #8
                I once dealt with an officer named Duncan. I felt bad for him.

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                • mblatour
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 298

                  #9
                  I remember dealing with this one too......I had to research it and ended up showing it wasn't allowed. My cop was NOT happy. He didn't come back the next year and my repeat client rate is VERY high and I grow my business 100% based off of referrals. Seems to me from what I've read over the year, officers can get really touchy when a fellow officer tells them that their tax preparer says they can do it and we tell them they can't.

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                  • ttbtaxes
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 580

                    #10
                    Let those clients go. They are nothing but trouble. Let preparer "X" get a goggle of them and deduct meals on every return.

                    Nowadays, with vastly enhanced computer modeling, the IRS could easily design a search ... "Give me every return that has meals, police officer listed as occupation, and sort by PTIN."

                    Preparer X now has a nightmare on his hands.

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                    • JohnH
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5339

                      #11
                      I agree it should be simple to do a sort like this, but we learned a couple of years ago their computers couldn't be configured to "give me all returns claiming EITC using the same prison for the mailing address."
                      "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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                      • RitaB
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1382

                        #12
                        Truth

                        Originally posted by David1980
                        I once dealt with an officer named Duncan. I felt bad for him.
                        LMBO


                        Originally posted by JohnH
                        I agree it should be simple to do a sort like this, but we learned a couple of years ago their computers couldn't be configured to "give me all returns claiming EITC using the same prison for the mailing address."
                        Yeah, I don't see a lot of effort going into the process, either. Well, it seems they are working hard at making US work harder...
                        If you loan someone $20 and never see them again, it was probably worth it.

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