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  • Academy Tax
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 19

    #1

    Clergy home expenses

    An ordained minister receiving a housing allowance from his church replaces an aging roof and heatpump on his owned home. Can he claim such expenditures as "costs of maintaining his home" or must he capitalize these expenditures as adjustment of the basis of his home??
  • ATSMAN
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 2415

    #2
    I think that would be adjustment to basis.
    Taxes after all are the dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. - FDR

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    • ChEAr$
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 3872

      #3
      Originally posted by ATSMAN
      I think that would be adjustment to basis.
      but after another adjustment maybe for the tax credit obtained for the heat pump?
      ChEAr$,
      Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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      • JohnH
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 5339

        #4
        I've never handled a clergy return where a roof was completely replaced, but I'm fairly certain it can be counted as a part of the housing allowance, as can the net cost of the HVAC system. There is no requirement to distinguish between "repairs" and "capital expenditures" when adding up the expenditures related to the H&U allowance. For example, a down payment on a home purchase can be included as a H&U expenditure.

        There is, however, an overall limitation, which is that the amount excluded from income cannot exceed the lesser of :
        1) The amount designated (in advance of payment to the clergyperson) as H&U allowance;
        2) The amount actually expended;
        3) The fair renal value of the property, fully furnished and utilites provided.
        "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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        • Burke
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 7068

          #5
          John is correct. For purposes of calculating the housing allowance, you count such repairs/etc. For purposes of selling the home, or other basis requirements such as converting to rental property, you capitalize these expenditures, less --- as Chear$ referenced -- any tax credits taken.

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          • taxmanken
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 6

            #6
            Consider using installment cost

            Although the entire cost of replacing the roof can be considered a current year housing expense, it is entirely likely that adding that cost to the other housing costs will push the total housing expenditures for the year over the designated amount or the FAIR RENTAL VALUE of the home. In either case, some of the benefit of clergy housing exclusion would be lost. If that is the case it would be prudent for the pastor to not pay all of the roofing costs the first year and thereby be able to exclude the entire amount over the period of years that he is paying the expenditure. I frequently advise my clergy clients to not make full payment in one year on large expenditures.

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            • MAMalody
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 374

              #7
              I agree that JohnH got it right. Taxmanken has a great idea also. The big issue here is that it looks like we are playing catchup. The pastor needed to keep the preparer in tune with that is going on for the best planning to take place. I can't tell from the OP if this is a 2012 question or a 2013 question or how much after the fact it could be. Unfortunately, it sounds like a done deal.

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              • Academy Tax
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 19

                #8
                Thanks guys for the great help and insights!

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                • JohnH
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5339

                  #9
                  That was a very insightful post by taxmanken about splitting capital expenditures into a couple of years in order to maximize the tax benefit of the exclusion form income. Thanks for mentioning that - I'm betting anyone who has clergy clients will find an application for that strategy in the future.
                  "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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                  • MAMalody
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 374

                    #10
                    I agree it is a great strategy, however, it is iincumbant upon the pastor to keep you informed of his situation. In my experience, I usually find out when preparing the return in the following year and it is too late.

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