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  • TAX4US
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 551

    #1

    critical date

    A question was asked at a chamber meeting? I thought I would ask it here for responses. Return shows a refund. Other than certain elections how critical is the 10-15-2013 date? What do you think?
  • RLymanC
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 653

    #2
    Due Date

    Your info allows 3 years from due date to file for a refund. No penalties.
    Confucius say:
    He who sits on tack is better off.

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    • DaveinTexas
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 731

      #3
      Why I think the due date is critical

      Originally posted by TAX4US
      A question was asked at a chamber meeting? I thought I would ask it here for responses. Return shows a refund. Other than certain elections how critical is the 10-15-2013 date? What do you think?
      even if the return results in a refund is timely filing history goes a long way to abating future penalties. The IRS is less willing to work with the taxpayer to abate late filing penalties if they show a pattern of being late. Also, if the taxpayer has omitted income (oops, forgot the 401K withdrawal) the IRS will apply the late filing penalty to the additional tax as well as interest (CP2000 letter). This just adds insult to injury.

      I can't tell you how many times a client is due a refund, forgets to tell me they had a loan default on a 401K or they took $20K++ out of their IRA, then here comes the CP2000 18 months later.

      Always encourage the client to file timely if possible.
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      Don't even think about using the information in this message!

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      • JohnH
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 5339

        #4
        I agree with Dave, and I always explain this to the client when one happens to file late. If there's a refund, then there is no penalty on the initial filing. However, it doesn't end there. The IRS has at least 3 years (and in some circumstances 7 years) to audit the return. If they find any issue which causes additional tax to be due, the late filing penalty of 5% per month on the unpaid balance (max of 25%) will be assessed at that time.
        "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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        • ChEAr$
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3872

          #5
          Originally posted by DaveinTexas
          Always encourage the client to file timely if possible.
          Amen to that. NO extensions. No problems in October. Done by April 15th.
          ChEAr$,
          Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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