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    I had a return just about completed when the client decided to withdraw his information. The return was listed with other returns ready to be e-filed and when I pressed the button to file these returns the unauthorized return was filed also and the IRS accepted. What should now be done?

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    Former client should be informed immediately and given a copy of what was filed so that he along with next preparer can amend it accordingly.

    Be prepared for his wanting some monetary damages.
    ChEAr$,
    Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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      #3
      Not a fond client farewell. . .

      Originally posted by ChEAr$ View Post
      Former client should be informed immediately and given a copy of what was filed so that he along with next preparer can amend it accordingly.

      Be prepared for his wanting some monetary damages.
      Or worse. . . .

      FE

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        #4
        I'd work with them to amend the return. For free.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Roberts View Post
          I'd work with them to amend the return. For free.
          For free?

          I agree.
          ChEAr$,
          Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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            #6
            Circumstances may govern best decision

            Originally posted by Roberts View Post
            I'd work with them to amend the return. For free.
            While that is a notable approach (and perhaps a wise "save face" move), what is not mentioned here is exactly why the client originally chose to go elsewhere.

            If it were a mere pricing consideration, a free return or two might fix things.

            BUT if, in whatever way, Pandora's Box was opened by erroneously filing the client return, especially if there might have been some "issues" present which the IRS now can see, the preparer may be looking at a problem greater than mere fee structure issues.

            FE

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              #7
              At the time the client decided to withdraw his information, had you already obtained the signature(s) for the 8879?

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                #8
                Originally posted by BillV View Post
                I had a return just about completed when the client decided to withdraw his information. The return was listed with other returns ready to be e-filed and when I pressed the button to file these returns the unauthorized return was filed also and the IRS accepted. What should now be done?
                How was a return that was "just about completed" in with returns ready for e-file?

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                  #9
                  Good point

                  Originally posted by Justataxguy View Post
                  How was a return that was "just about completed" in with returns ready for e-file?
                  Interesting question. There is no "just about completed" if a return is placed into the efile queue.

                  It should only be there if it HAS been completed and if the preparer has a signed Form 8879 in hand.

                  The inadvertent filing of this return could easily turn into a mess of varied flavors.

                  FE

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by FEDUKE404 View Post
                    It should only be there if it HAS been completed and if the preparer has a signed Form 8879 in hand.
                    I agree. The real issue is the flawed procedures used in tax preparation. There should be no way to make this kind of mistake with proper procedures used for e-filing returns.

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                      #11
                      No signatures were obtained before filing.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BillV View Post
                        No signatures were obtained before filing.
                        Sorry to hear that.

                        I use software that has multiple ways to prevent e-filing but allows us to use macros to fill in certain criteria automatically, like readying the return for e-filing.

                        The biggest flaw is that in some parts of the software, we need to mark it completely ready to e-file in order to get the signature forms to print and then need to go back and make it "unready" again so that we are not tempted to e-file it before actually obtaining signatures.

                        After reading this, I have gone back and fixed a return that has been repeatedly showing up (while the taxpayer is still reading through their emailed copy).

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ChEAr$ View Post
                          Former client should be informed immediately and given a copy of what was filed so that he along with next preparer can amend it accordingly.

                          Be prepared for his wanting some monetary damages.
                          No way would I give the client a copy of the return even if he paid for my time working on it. In this case I would call him and explain the error. Then I would offer to finish the return (free of additional charges) and if manually filed as a subsequent return before 4/15 there is no need for an amended to be done.
                          Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by FEDUKE404 View Post
                            Interesting question. There is no "just about completed" if a return is placed into the efile queue.

                            It should only be there if it HAS been completed and if the preparer has a signed Form 8879 in hand.

                            The inadvertent filing of this return could easily turn into a mess of varied flavors.

                            FE
                            Well, not exactly. At least not in my case. When a return is complete, it is in the "ready to e-file queue." When I get the 8879, I then select it from the queue and e-file it.

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                              #15
                              In Drake

                              If I don't enter my PIN it won't be ready for e-file. I don't enter my PIN until I'm getting ready to meet with the client to sign the 8879.

                              Problem solved

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