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    Interesting Way To Explain Taxes

    Received this email and thought I would share.

    Let's put taxes in terms everyone can understand.
    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
    The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
    The fifth would pay $1.
    The sixth would pay $3.
    The seventh $7.
    The eighth $12.
    The ninth $18.
    The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
    So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20."

    Now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?

    The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal.

    The restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so:
    The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
    The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
    The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
    The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
    The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
    The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
    Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, they began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man "but he got 10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too.

    It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!" "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

    The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore.

    #2
    I got that email too. The problem with the analogy is that in real life, the rich guy would have to starve to death if he refused to show up for dinner.

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      #3
      Not Quite Accurate

      And the first five should actually get paid to eat (EIC).

      Gary

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        #4
        Rights

        The sad part is that the freeloaders actually believe that a free ride is owed to them.

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          #5
          I kind of like the story, but see several faults. Here are two:

          1. Whatever the analogy is for the "dinner", the rich guy's plate is certainly much bigger than anyone's else.

          2. Many of the first four people work at minimum wage for the rich guy, don't have money for medical insurance and other basic needs and therefor have to work more than one job just to make it. Why shouldn't they get paid to eat? And by the way, some of them end up in devastating situations when they have a medical emergency.

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            #6
            toothpicks

            Yeah, cute story, but it only resembles the tax system when you realize that the 10th guy, who paid $59, ordered a $90 dishwith wine and dessert. The other $10 of food was served to all the rest except the first four who didn't pay anything and only got the mint flavored toothpicks.

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              #7
              Yeah and....

              ...don't forget that the rich guy also made everyone else bow down to him and feed him grapes while he relaxed on the sofa with scantily clad women dancing and waving palm branches to and fro. Then they sacrificed one of the first guy’s kids and threw his mother out on the street to pay for the rich guy’s valet parking when he left the restaurant.

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                #8
                The rich

                The way I see it is vastly different from some of the others. So the rich guy either worked his butt off through college, perhaps got his masters degree or doctorate or he had a great idea that the rest of the world needs (think Bill Gates). And because of his hard work or his great idea the "one's working for lower wages" or having to bow down to him resent him? He was the one that took the risk. He put his savings on the line risking his and his family's welfare on an idea. If the "lowly" worker resents it, perhaps they should quit and risk everything they have on starting a business. But, their fear of failure prevents them from moving forward.

                When I started my own business in 1994 I struggled like hell for 2 or 3 years. Now I should feel bad because I make quite a bit more than those that work for me? I don't think so.

                The great thing about this country is everyone has an opportunity to make their mark. Unfortunately when the workers feel they are not getting a big enough piece of the pie, even though they risked nothing on the venture, they can bring in a union. Now, I am not saying unions do not have their place, they do, up to a point. I live a heavily unionized state (Michigan) and when the companies are bleeding red ink and look to the unions to give a little you almost always here the leadership say "I'd rather see the company go under than have our rank and file pay any of the health insurance costs". Look at GM, Ford, almost any airline, etc. Part of their problems could be blamed on mismanagement, it is hard not to look at that in any large bureaucratic operation, but the unions are partly to blame as well.

                I am never jealous of the clients that have $300k+ W-2's and, likewise, I never feel sorry for those with $20k W-2's.
                I would put a favorite quote in here, but it would get me banned from the board.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Matt Sova
                  If the "lowly" worker resents it, perhaps they should quit and risk everything they have on starting a business. But, their fear of failure prevents them from moving forward.

                  When I started my own business in 1994 I struggled like hell for 2 or 3 years. Now I should feel bad because I make quite a bit more than those that work for me? I don't think so.
                  So, what if you had lost everything in risking everything? And now you have to raise a family with a much lower income than you dreamed about.

                  What if you moved to another country (like me), risked virtually everything, work hard and still don't make much money?

                  No story ever is simple.

                  By the way, the low income people may not be the ones who complain most. May it's the people who don't pay decent wages to their employees but feel ripped off. (I am not saying you are one of them)

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                    #10
                    Money

                    If you do not think you make enough money, you have the freedom to a) raise your prices, b) market your product better or c) try something else.

                    Is it Bill Gates fault, or Steve Forbes fault, or "Insert some other rich dudes name here" fault? No. Only you are in charge of your destiny. If someone feels they are not getting paid what they are worth they always have the opportunity to find something else.
                    I would put a favorite quote in here, but it would get me banned from the board.

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                      #11
                      Matt,

                      I guess money is not my first priority in life. By the way, I never blamed anyone but it's still not as easy as your words suggest.

                      Good for you, that all your efforts paid of finally. My efforts pay of too, but not on a monetary level yet.

                      Gabriele

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                        #12
                        Matt I Agree With You , In This Country You Become Rich By Working Hard And Smarter Than Others. I Hate People Who Make Excuses.

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                          #13
                          I don't hate people I hate excuses.

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                            #14
                            but...

                            Some risked giving a corporation the best years of their lives to provide the necessities for their families only to loose those jobs because the management didn't have enough foresight during the seventies to see that "green" was the future and continued to build gas guzzlers instead. These same providers watch CEO's get bonuses in the millions for improving the bottom line by sending their jobs out of the country. If US auto makers were making cars that people want, thereby selling more cars, the health care costs of their workers and retirees wouldn't even be an issue because it would be spread over a greater quanity of cars.

                            On the other hand, there are entrepeneurs who have started out with an idea in their garage made millions and used it to benefit the community that they live in and beyond by providing jobs, donating wings to hospitals, building new libraries, conventions centers and auditoriums to bring people in that spend money in the city; then decide to run for governor thinking that perhaps he can do the same for his ailing state.

                            No one ever said life was fair, but generalizing about people never is.

                            Rocky
                            "got asphalt?"
                            Last edited by Rocky; 04-13-2006, 05:49 AM.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by veritas
                              I don't hate people I hate excuses.
                              Amen. I hate excuses, too. But unless I am interested in the other person I never will know if I deal with excuses or just a sad story.

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