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    Simplified Option for Claiming Home Office Deduction - Revenue Procedure 2013-13

    IRS Announces Simplified Option for Claiming Home Office Deduction Starting This Year; Eligible Home-Based Businesses May Deduct up to $1,500; Saves Taxpayers 1.6 Million Hours A Year

    WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service today announced a simplified option that many owners of home-based businesses and some home-based workers may use to figure their deductions for the business use of their homes.

    In tax year 2010, the most recent year for which figures are available, nearly 3.4 million taxpayers claimed deductions for business use of a home (commonly referred to as the home office deduction).

    The new optional deduction, capped at $1,500 per year based on $5 a square foot for up to 300 square feet, will reduce the paperwork and recordkeeping burden on small businesses by an estimated 1.6 million hours annually.

    "This is a common-sense rule to provide taxpayers an easier way to calculate and claim the home office deduction," said Acting IRS Commissioner Steven T. Miller. "The IRS continues to look for similar ways to combat complexity and encourages people to look at this option as they consider tax planning in 2013."

    The new option provides eligible taxpayers an easier path to claiming the home office deduction. Currently, they are generally required to fill out a 43-line form (Form 8829) often with complex calculations of allocated expenses, depreciation and carryovers of unused deductions. Taxpayers claiming the optional deduction will complete a significantly simplified form.
    Though homeowners using the new option cannot depreciate the portion of their home used in a trade or business, they can claim allowable mortgage interest, real estate taxes and casualty losses on the home as itemized deductions on Schedule A. These deductions need not be allocated between personal and business use, as is required under the regular method.
    Business expenses unrelated to the home, such as advertising, supplies and wages paid to employees are still fully deductible.

    Current restrictions on the home office deduction, such as the requirement that a home office must be used regularly and exclusively for business and the limit tied to the income derived from the particular business, still apply under the new option.

    The new simplified option is available starting with the 2013 return most taxpayers file early in 2014. Further details on the new option can be found in Revenue Procedure 2013-13, posted today on IRS.gov. Revenue Procedure 2013-13 is effective for taxable years beginning on or after January 1, 2013, and the IRS welcomes public comment on this new option to improve it for tax year 2014 and later years. There are three ways to submit comments.
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    Form 8829-EZ

    Why doesn't the IRS just rename the form?

    MY next question is whether the $ 5/sq foot has to use the hi-lo method for determining the local rate?
    Uncle Sam, CPA, EA. ARA, NTPI Fellow

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      #3
      Observations

      1 - Great. Another version of a form which already in the present form can result in much hair-pulling (and client charges).

      2 - Did you note the $1,500 limitation? That is not a large annual amount for someone with legitimate OIH expenses, especially when OIH has to deal with mortgage interest, property taxes, costly utilities, etc.

      3 - It sounds as if the procedure will be a) meet the rules, b) measure square feet of OIH space, c) multiply by $5, d) claim lesser of $1500 or calculated amount.

      4 - Person who does not itemize will likely get less benefit with the new form. Assuming Schedule C is involved, there likely will be more net business income subject to taxation and also higher SE tax.


      Note to self: I will worry about that next year!!

      FE

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        #4
        Form 8829-EZ

        And what about the itemizer who takes the $ 1,500 flat OIH deduction?
        Claiming a mortgage interest and/or real estate tax a second time will be permitted?
        Uncle Sam, CPA, EA. ARA, NTPI Fellow

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          #5
          Are they kidding ..... in Hawaii the mortgage interest by percentage of office use would be way more than 1500.
          Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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            #6
            Why does mortgage interest play into it all?

            Originally posted by taxea View Post
            Are they kidding ..... in Hawaii the mortgage interest by percentage of office use would be way more than 1500.
            Mortgage interest is already deductible on Sch A? I realize in rare cases a TP may take OIH and not itemize, but that's few and far between.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Uncle Sam View Post
              And what about the itemizer who takes the $ 1,500 flat OIH deduction?
              Claiming a mortgage interest and/or real estate tax a second time will be permitted?
              Good question. I gather from the RevProc that they are saying M/I & R/E/T & C/L will go to Sche A, and other bus exp will go on 8829-EZ or whatever the new form is? But no depreciation if you use the new one. Kind of like auto exp: mileage vs actual exp.

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                #8
                Originally posted by JoshinNC View Post
                Mortgage interest is already deductible on Sch A? I realize in rare cases a TP may take OIH and not itemize, but that's few and far between.
                Why would you take the full mortgage interest on Sch A where it gets slashed rather taking the allowed amount on Sch C F8829 where it is dollar for dollar?
                Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by taxea View Post
                  Why would you take the full mortgage interest on Sch A where it gets slashed rather taking the allowed amount on Sch C F8829 where it is dollar for dollar?
                  Where is it slashed on Sch A?
                  You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by WhiteOleander View Post
                    Where is it slashed on Sch A?
                    Sch A does not provide for a dollar for dollar deduction. Sch A deduction is subtracted from adjusted gross income, not gross income as are expenses on Sch C or F8829
                    Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by taxea View Post
                      Sch A does not provide for a dollar for dollar deduction. Sch A deduction is subtracted from adjusted gross income, not gross income as are expenses on Sch C or F8829
                      If a percentage of mortgage interest is deducted on OIH and Sch A, the taxpayer would still have the same taxable income as they would if all mortgage interest were deducted on Sch A and none OIH. I still don't see a "slash".
                      You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

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                        #12
                        self-employment

                        Originally posted by WhiteOleander View Post
                        If a percentage of mortgage interest is deducted on OIH and Sch A, the taxpayer would still have the same taxable income as they would if all mortgage interest were deducted on Sch A and none OIH. I still don't see a "slash".
                        I think you are right--maybe the same taxable income. However, if all the interest and property tax are included on schedule A, then your net income will be highter on schedule C and self-employment tax will be higher.

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                          #13
                          Schedule C / SE tax

                          Originally posted by WhiteOleander View Post
                          If a percentage of mortgage interest is deducted on OIH and Sch A, the taxpayer would still have the same taxable income as they would if all mortgage interest were deducted on Sch A and none OIH. I still don't see a "slash".
                          White:

                          If you deduct the mortgage interest on Schedule C it lowers the SE / Medicare tax (I know you know that just getting to what I am trying to say). If you can get the same tax benefit by taking the standard $5 / sq ft on Schedule C then you can get the additional benefit on Schedule A as well as not having to deal with depreciation.

                          Dusty

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gene V View Post
                            I think you are right--maybe the same taxable income. However, if all the interest and property tax are included on schedule A, then your net income will be highter on schedule C and self-employment tax will be higher.
                            I agree, but Taxea said that the deduction is slashed. She made no mention of SE tax. Sch C would give an SE tax benefit. But, Sch A does not slash mortgage interest decution.
                            You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

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                              #15
                              2 OIH's in same house?

                              Originally posted by FEDUKE404 View Post
                              1 - Great. Another version of a form which already 3 - It sounds as if the procedure will be a) meet the rules, b) measure square feet of OIH space, c) multiply by $5, d) claim lesser of $1500 or calculated amount.FE
                              I believe FE is correct. It will be the lesser of the two. I have a client who uses nearly 1000 sq ft of his 4500 sq ft house for inventory, meeting room, office machines, people who work for him etc. This will force some OIH's TP's to obtain a commericial office and maybe the Commmericial Realtors lobbied for this. By forcing them to obtain commerical space means higher bus related exps therefore lower net profit. Anybody at the IRS thought that one out, NOT.
                              Is this 300 sq ft per OIH meaning what if the TP has a his own OIH and his spouse has her own OIH in the same house. Do they each recieve max 300 sq ft if of course they use at least 300 sq ft?

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