We now must be cleared by client to file extension

[JohnH]

Definition of a bureaucrat:

--> Someone who takes great pleasure in telling you a perfectly logical course of action isn't possible because "it's against the rules." <--

[DonPriebe]

Blame it on Congress

... if the IRS ever wanted to use this to raise revenue, like they are doing with EIC Due Diligence audits ...

Sorry, you can't blame that one on the IRS. The increase in EIC Due Diligence fines were mandated by Congress in the Korean Free Trade Bill as a partial offset to the revenue lost by the free trade agreement itself.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/s1642.pdf

[veritas]

And

Sorry, you can't blame that one on the IRS. The EIC Due Diligence fines were mandated by Congress in the Korean Free Trade Bill as a partial offset to the revenue lost by the free trade agreement itself.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...ents/s1642.pdf

Who do you suppose came up with this little gem? Do you think Barney was talking to Chuckie and said "you know these tax preparers are getting away with murder scalping our treasury with lying and cheating? Don't they know that's our job?".

[ChEAr$]

Definition of a bureaucrat:

--> Someone who takes great pleasure in telling you a perfectly logical course of action isn't possible because "it's against the rules." <--

Remember back in the 1960's/70's the famed Peter Principle?

I get the impression this Miz Hawkins is living proof that it still applies.

[FEDUKE404]

And the beat goes on. . .2015 version

Interesting discussion. . . aka "a blast from the past."

IIRC, the 2014 version on a similar topic got a bit "heated" and then vanished into TTB cyberspace perpetuity.

FE

[Burke]

All this brings up the question about 8878. I got every one of my extenders to sign the form. Is it not required? They are never here to input their own PIN..

[TAXNJ]

Last resort is to contact the op office

All this brings up the question about 8878. I got every one of my extenders to sign the form. Is it not required? They are never here to input their own PIN..

reference:

1 - http://www.irs.gov/uac/New-Electroni...-Authorization

2 - also see page 2 of the form 8878

3 - as you say "I got every one of my extenders to sign the form." seems like you would be covered

Last resort is to contact the OP office. If you do let us know

[FEDUKE404]

Form 8878 only if payment required with Form 4868

reference:

1 - http://www.irs.gov/uac/New-Electroni...-Authorization

2 - also see page 2 of the form 8878

3 - as you say "I got every one of my extenders to sign the form." seems like you would be covered

Last resort is to contact the OP office. If you do let us know

Rightly or wrongly, the open people who filed/signed a Form 8878 for me were those who owed a balance due with their Form 4868.

For everyone else, I had either a written (email) or verbal communication authorizing me to file their 2014 extensions.

I did not, nor have I ever, "automatically" filed an extension for any client.

#1 above is dated 2014.

#2 excerpt is as follows:

• Form 4868, and
• The taxpayer is not authorizing an electronic funds withdrawal.
Do not complete Form 8878.

• Form 4868, and
• Authorizing an electronic funds withdrawal, and
• The ERO is using the Practitioner PIN method.
Complete Form 8878,Parts I, II, and III.

• Form 4868, and
• Authorizing an electronic funds withdrawal, and
• Authorizing the ERO to enter or generate the taxpayer’s PIN, and
• The ERO is not using the Practitioner PIN method.
Complete Form 8878,Parts I and II.

FE

[TAXNJ]

Agree - good job

rightly or wrongly, the open people who filed/signed a form 8878 for me were those who owed a balance due with their form 4868.

For everyone else, i had either a written (email) or verbal communication authorizing me to file their 2014 extensions.

I did not, nor have i ever, "automatically" filed an extension for any client.

#1 above is dated 2014.

#2 excerpt is as follows:

• form 4868, and
• the taxpayer is not authorizing an electronic funds withdrawal.
do not complete form 8878.

• form 4868, and
• authorizing an electronic funds withdrawal, and
• the ero is using the practitioner pin method.
Complete form 8878,parts i, ii, and iii.

• form 4868, and
• authorizing an electronic funds withdrawal, and
• authorizing the ero to enter or generate the taxpayer’s pin, and
• the ero is not using the practitioner pin method.
Complete form 8878,parts i and ii.

Fe

AGREE - good job - well stated