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  • Possi
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 1432

    #1

    mortgage insurance deductible?

    Has the mortgage insurance deduction gone away? I read that it was not deductible for 2012, then I found this January 2012 article.

    The loss of that tax deduction — plus mandatory new fees imposed by Congress on all new conventional and FHA loans — could effectively increase the costs of homeownership this year.


    Any chance it will be reinstated before the end of the year, as so many are? Or should I be advising that it is GONE?
    "I am proud to pay taxes in the United States. The only thing is I could be just as proud for half the money." Arthur Godfrey
  • Roberts
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 807

    #2
    PMI should be deductible because it reduces your interest expense by an equal amount.
    Don't know if it actually IS deductible but I think it was extended for 2012.
    Last edited by Roberts; 09-19-2012, 01:10 PM.

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    • Possi
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 1432

      #3
      News to me

      Originally posted by Roberts
      PMI should be deductible because it reduces your interest expense by an equal amount.
      Don't know if it actually IS deductible but I think it was extended for 2012.
      I didn't know that.... interesting....
      "I am proud to pay taxes in the United States. The only thing is I could be just as proud for half the money." Arthur Godfrey

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      • Roberts
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 807

        #4
        Originally posted by Possi
        I didn't know that.... interesting....
        Well in theory. They require the insurance because you are of greater default risk thus a higher interest rate would be warranted. They require the insurance in exchange for a lower interest rate until you meet a specified threshold.

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        • ChEAr$
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3872

          #5
          Originally posted by Possi
          Has the mortgage insurance deduction gone away? I read that it was not deductible for 2012, then I found this January 2012 article.

          The loss of that tax deduction — plus mandatory new fees imposed by Congress on all new conventional and FHA loans — could effectively increase the costs of homeownership this year.


          Any chance it will be reinstated before the end of the year, as so many are? Or should I be advising that it is GONE?
          If we know it's not deductible for 2012, that's what we advise, and not take a chance on it being extended before end of year.
          ChEAr$,
          Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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          • taxxcpa
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 978

            #6
            On the endangered list--MIP

            The Kiplinger Tax Letter (Sept 2012 issue) says: Also on the endangered list: The limited write-off for mortgage insurance premiums.

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            • veritas
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3290

              #7
              all i can say is

              Originally posted by taxxcpa
              The Kiplinger Tax Letter (Sept 2012 issue) says: Also on the endangered list: The limited write-off for mortgage insurance premiums.

              Good!.........

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              • TAX4US
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 551

                #8
                Pmi insurance

                Tax book page 4-10 indicates that for 2011 it is still good. Does not mention gone in 2012. Anyone got clarification on this. I have some clients that pay a healthy pmi. Thanks

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                • New York Enrolled Agent
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1532

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TAX4US
                  Tax book page 4-10 indicates that for 2011 it is still good. Does not mention gone in 2012. Anyone got clarification on this. I have some clients that pay a healthy pmi. Thanks
                  Unless Congress does a retroactive provision, the deduction is gone. The IRC says:

                  Mortgage insurance premiums treated as interest

                  (i) In general
                  Premiums paid or accrued for qualified mortgage insurance by a taxpayer during the taxable year in connection with acquisition indebtedness with respect to a qualified residence of the taxpayer shall be treated for purposes of this section as interest which is qualified residence interest.

                  ....
                  (iv) Termination

                  Clause (i) shall not apply to amounts--
                  (I) paid or accrued after December 31, 2011, or
                  (II) properly allocable to any period after such date.

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