IRS trying to get SE tax on Executor of Aunt's and Uncle's Estate executor fee.

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  • John of PA
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 1104

    #1

    IRS trying to get SE tax on Executor of Aunt's and Uncle's Estate executor fee.

    Taxpayer is not an attorney and not knowledable of estate matters is the executor of 2 estates, both his aunt's and uncle's who were married to each other and died withing 2 years of each other. These estates remain open for several years and are still open becasue of issues relating to selling real estate. Taxpayer has been reporting the executor fees (2 separate 1099's) for several years now but has not been paying SE tax on the fees. IRS, for 2010, just sent a notice assessing the SE tax. I assume the IRS computer picked up a pattern of more than one estate and going on for several years. I don't feel the SE tax should apply. Any comments? Thanks.
  • Gary2
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2066

    #2
    What type of notice?

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    • ChEAr$
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 3872

      #3
      Originally posted by John of PA
      Taxpayer is not an attorney and not knowledable of estate matters is the executor of 2 estates, both his aunt's and uncle's who were married to each other and died withing 2 years of each other. These estates remain open for several years and are still open becasue of issues relating to selling real estate. Taxpayer has been reporting the executor fees (2 separate 1099's) for several years now but has not been paying SE tax on the fees. IRS, for 2010, just sent a notice assessing the SE tax. I assume the IRS computer picked up a pattern of more than one estate and going on for several years. I don't feel the SE tax should apply. Any comments? Thanks.
      The 1099's probably had the amounts in box 7 so that is what caught IRS computer's attention.

      Just reply to letter the facts in the case, that taxpayer functions as exeuctor as a favor to the estate and is not in that trade or business. performing for more than one estate does not condemn one to being in business.
      ChEAr$,
      Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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      • John of PA
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2005
        • 1104

        #4
        The type of notice was a CP2000.

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        • John of PA
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2005
          • 1104

          #5
          Thank you Chear, yes indeed the executor fees were reported on box 7 of the 1099-R. Sounds like a plan.

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          • Gary2
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 2066

            #6
            Agreed. The reason I asked about the type of notice is that the CP2000s are generated by the computers, and therefore easier to clear up. Anything else could mean more effort, though likely the same result.

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            • joanmcq
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 1729

              #7
              They should have been box 3, not box 7. I had one of these where the trustee had two years of fees. It was easy to clean up with a letter; quoting the section of the pub describing trustee fees (or maybe it was the code, I can't remember) helped a lot.

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              • JohnH
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 5339

                #8
                Originally posted by joanmcq
                They should have been box 3, not box 7. I had one of these where the trustee had two years of fees. It was easy to clean up with a letter; quoting the section of the pub describing trustee fees (or maybe it was the code, I can't remember) helped a lot.
                Maybe it was Revenue Ruling 58-5?

                "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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                • John of PA
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 1104

                  #9
                  Thank you for the comments and your help.

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