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  • AZ-Tax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 2604

    #1

    Preparing form 2553, what would you charge?

    One of my fellow EA's in PHX said he bills out $165/hr and probably would take 1 to 2 hours to complete form 2553. Last time I did one I charged $100 couple yrs ago. This one is one shareholder.
  • ChEAr$
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 3872

    #2
    Originally posted by AZ-Tax
    One of my fellow EA's in PHX said he bills out $165/hr and probably would take 1 to 2 hours to complete form 2553. Last time I did one I charged $100 couple yrs ago. This one is one shareholder.
    What would I charge? nothing. It's all part of setting up corporate account and I will doing monthly writeup work anyway. (Each client represents a monthly annuity.)

    Just how long does it take? You go to the pdf form on the web, enter the required data, print it out and give it to client to mail. Oh, probably 5 minutes; 10 at th emost.

    You just can't nickle and dime clients to death. Every now and then do something for free. Call it "value added".
    ChEAr$,
    Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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    • JohnH
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 5339

      #3
      I'm not sure I'd want someone doing any tax work for me if it took them 2 hrs to fill out a 2553.
      "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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      • veritas
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 3290

        #4
        I would charge

        at least one hour.

        This includes phone/meeting call from client(s) to discuss making election.

        Time to complete form which can vary depending on availability of information.

        Setting up appt with client(s) to sign form and mail for them, since they can't be trusted.

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        • kpangelinan
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 511

          #5
          Originally posted by JohnH
          I'm not sure I'd want someone doing any tax work for me if it took them 2 hrs to fill out a 2553.
          Ditto....that's ridiculous.

          Originally posted by ChEAr$
          What would I charge? nothing. It's all part of setting up corporate account and I will doing monthly writeup work anyway. (Each client represents a monthly annuity.)

          Just how long does it take? You go to the pdf form on the web, enter the required data, print it out and give it to client to mail. Oh, probably 5 minutes; 10 at th emost.

          You just can't nickle and dime clients to death. Every now and then do something for free. Call it "value added".
          We include that in our all-inclusive fee to set up the corporation, consult on what type of corporation might be best, etc.

          So, nothing.

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          • veritas
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 3290

            #6
            What do you include

            Originally posted by kpangelinan
            Ditto....that's ridiculous.



            We include that in our all-inclusive fee to set up the corporation, consult on what type of corporation might be best, etc.

            So, nothing.
            in setting up a corporation?

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            • kpangelinan
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 511

              #7
              Originally posted by veritas
              in setting up a corporation?
              Sole props or new business start ups come in seeking to start their S-corp (or C or LLC) and we charge a fee for that; consultation, articles of incorporation, name search, EIN number, 2553, etc.

              And like mentioned earlier, who do you think will get the book work and tax prep for these newly formed corporations?

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              • ChEAr$
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3872

                #8
                new corporations

                Yes Veritas, in some states we are not afraid to assist client in setting up his own corporation. However client himself has to take the paperwork to local probate judge's office for filing.
                ChEAr$,
                Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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                • Roberts
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 807

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JohnH
                  I'm not sure I'd want someone doing any tax work for me if it took them 2 hrs to fill out a 2553.
                  2 hrs for 15 minutes work. Seems about right for most attorney's.

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                  • kpangelinan
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 511

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Roberts
                    2 hrs for 15 minutes work. Seems about right for most attorney's.
                    Ouch! Sad, but true.

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                    • veritas
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 3290

                      #11
                      Then you won't be afraid

                      Originally posted by ChEAr$
                      Yes Veritas, in some states we are not afraid to assist client in setting up his own corporation. However client himself has to take the paperwork to local probate judge's office for filing.
                      of the lawsuit you potentially face.

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                      • kpangelinan
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 511

                        #12
                        Originally posted by veritas
                        of the lawsuit you potentially face.
                        Huh?

                        We use a third party vendor to do the filings and just pass that fee along to the customer and charge an additional fee for the consultation and other things that go along with setting up a corporation.

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                        • ChEAr$
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 3872

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kpangelinan
                          Huh?

                          We use a third party vendor to do the filings and just pass that fee along to the customer and charge an additional fee for the consultation and other things that go along with setting up a corporation.
                          Here, I am only an amanuensis for my client and I charge no fee for so called "legal work".
                          The articles of incorporation are stock, used by other attorneys and satisfy minimum requirements of the state. As I said, the papers are given to client and he is the one who files them. I see no legal liability on my part. It is not the practice of law.
                          ChEAr$,
                          Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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                          • veritas
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 3290

                            #14
                            I was

                            Originally posted by kpangelinan
                            Huh?

                            We use a third party vendor to do the filings and just pass that fee along to the customer and charge an additional fee for the consultation and other things that go along with setting up a corporation.
                            responding to Chear$

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                            • veritas
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 3290

                              #15
                              Here's the way I see it

                              Originally posted by ChEAr$
                              Here, I am only an amanuensis for my client and I charge no fee for so called "legal work".
                              The articles of incorporation are stock, used by other attorneys and satisfy minimum requirements of the state. As I said, the papers are given to client and he is the one who files them. I see no legal liability on my part. It is not the practice of law.
                              Doctors do doctor stuff.
                              Dentists do dentist stuff.
                              Plumbers do plumber stuff
                              Lawyers do lawyer stuff

                              Shade tree mechanics try to do their stuff

                              And of couse we do our stuff

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