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    #16
    Things sure have changed over the years. Back in 1969-70, Michigan passed a law paying a bonus to any Michigan resident who was in the military or who was PLANNING to become a Michigan resident upon discharge. Amazing how many of my buddies suddenly decided Michigan was going to be the place to go after they got out. Changed their home of record and everything. Not so amazing was how many of them changed their minds again after they got the check and wound up returning to the state they lived in before joining.
    "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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      #17
      Originally posted by FEDUKE404 View Post
      As for changing the "tax home" for military personnel (it is quite convenient to claim FL or TX or similar origin) it is my understanding that some states, NC in particular, are quite aggressive in checking on NC residents who disappear from NCDOR tax records upon entry into the military. IIRC, the military has a form that must be signed/notarized where the person must state/certify the facts that justify changing home from state A to state B.
      The military has form 2058, which is the State of Legal Residence certificate. Massachusetts, for example, requires a copy of this form for the service member when the spouse claims exemption from MA taxes under the MSRRA.

      I don't know what the military rules are for filing this form, but my understanding is that once accepted, then it's binding on the individual and the state (barring clerical errors). The versions that I've found online don't mention anything about notarizing, but give an explanation that's essentially similar to the common rules for change of domicile, i.e., physical residence plus a vague set of example actions to demonstrate intent to establish a new domicile and sever previous connections.

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        #18
        Originally posted by FEDUKE404 View Post
        SIDE QUESTION: How difficult is it for the employers (let's assume WA resident is on active duty in NC and accompanying spouse works at a business in NC) NOT to withhold state taxes in the first place? I can envision local NC employers saying "You wanna do WHAT?!?"
        See the NC FAQ on the subject, specifically item 12.

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          #19
          Forms and NC-4

          Originally posted by Gary2 View Post
          The military has form 2058, which is the State of Legal Residence certificate. Massachusetts, for example, requires a copy of this form for the service member when the spouse claims exemption from MA taxes under the MSRRA.

          I don't know what the military rules are for filing this form, but my understanding is that once accepted, then it's binding on the individual and the state (barring clerical errors). The versions that I've found online don't mention anything about notarizing, but give an explanation that's essentially similar to the common rules for change of domicile, i.e., physical residence plus a vague set of example actions to demonstrate intent to establish a new domicile and sever previous connections.
          This is the form you mentioned and same I had last seen a couple of years ago:



          As for the NC rules (and I assume other states have similar guidelines), the process seems rather straightforward.

          FE

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            #20
            Thanks for this link and info from Gary2 regarding DD Form 2058. I have a couple of guys I want to send this to and ask for their original one.

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              #21
              Hawaii Law

              Tax Information Release No. 2010-01
              May 3, 2010
              Page 4 of 9
              1. The servicemember (as defined in 10 U.S.C. §101(a)(5)) is present in Hawaii solely in
              compliance with military or naval orders;
              2. The spouse is in Hawaii solely to be with the servicemember; and
              3. The spouse and servicemember are domiciled in the same state and that state is not
              Hawaii.
              (Note: The exemption only applies to the servicemember’s spouse. Any non-military
              source income earned in Hawaii by the servicemember is subject to Hawaii income tax.)
              Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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                #22
                Originally posted by taxea View Post
                (Note: The exemption only applies to the servicemember’s spouse. Any non-military
                source income earned in Hawaii by the servicemember is subject to Hawaii income tax.)
                Let me elaborate some more: While HI may only have this specific clarification, the MSRRA in general only applies to the spouse's earned income, i.e., wages, self-employment income, and that portion of partnership income subject to SE tax. As a trivial example, if the spouse owns a rental property in HI, then the rental income would not be exempt, and would be subject to HI taxes (assuming HI would normally tax such income of a non-resident).

                MA goes to the trouble of elaborating further concerning sole-proprietorships owned by the spouse. A simple consultant-type Schedule C would also be exempt under the MSRRA, but anything that is either capital-intensive or relies on employees wouldn't. I look at it this way: If it's an amount you think could be excluded from SE tax under the right structure (e.g. an S-Corp), even though being a sole-proprietorship stands in the way of SE exclusion, then MA will argue that it's not exempt from state tax under the MSRRA.

                I think I'm going to use this as another example of how small legal changes - the text of the MSRRA is quite manageable - can cause huge complications.
                Last edited by Gary2; 05-04-2012, 06:53 AM. Reason: Add link and clarify a bit more

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