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  • dktax
    Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 73

    #1

    Blood donations

    Young client (student) donated blood last year to the tune of $6800. Anyone care to share an opinion on whether this should be considered self employment income?
  • ChEAr$
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 3872

    #2
    Originally posted by dktax
    Young client (student) donated blood last year to the tune of $6800. Anyone care to share an opinion on whether this should be considered self employment income?
    Darn tootin it's se income. Commercial blood banks should be required to furnish 1099-misc forms.
    ChEAr$,
    Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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    • Ross
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 97

      #3
      Sure, slap it on schedule C and deduct all the booze and food he consumed during the year to produce the blood! (Just kidding!).

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      • dktax
        Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 73

        #4
        Thank you for your responses. I do concur. I told the youngster he would owe se tax but I was hoping I was wrong. Some of the SE will be offset by EIC.

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        • RitaB
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 1382

          #5
          Great

          Originally posted by dktax
          Thank you for your responses. I do concur. I told the youngster he would owe se tax but I was hoping I was wrong. Some of the SE will be offset by EIC.
          Well, sure it is. We get to help him.
          If you loan someone $20 and never see them again, it was probably worth it.

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          • dyne
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2005
            • 764

            #6
            WHY is this taxable AT ALL? He exchanged his blood for cash.
            If the blood bank paid him for the value of his blood, he would have NO gain or profit.
            If the blood bank paid him extra for his trouble this excess would be taxable.
            Could this be considered to be a Capital GAIN to be reported on schedule D?
            If so and the gain is considered to have come from Investment property and be
            INVESTMENT INCOME and exceeds $3150 would it disqualify EIC? Probably NOT.
            Would the sale of a kidney be taxable?
            Or if this is reported on schedule C would he be entitled to a COGS amount for the
            value of the blood donated?
            Does anyone have any authority regarding this issue?

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            • ChEAr$
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3872

              #7
              Originally posted by dyne
              WHY is this taxable AT ALL? He exchanged his blood for cash.
              If the blood bank paid him for the value of his blood, he would have NO gain or profit.
              If the blood bank paid him extra for his trouble this excess would be taxable.
              Could this be considered to be a Capital GAIN to be reported on schedule D?
              If so and the gain is considered to have come from Investment property and be
              INVESTMENT INCOME and exceeds $3150 would it disqualify EIC? Probably NOT.
              Would the sale of a kidney be taxable?
              Or if this is reported on schedule C would he be entitled to a COGS amount for the
              value of the blood donated?
              Does anyone have any authority regarding this issue?
              Simply put, the basis of blood is zero. there have been cases before where the taxpayer had entered a small figure on line 21 reflecting gross received less cost of food.
              ChEAr$,
              Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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              • Uncle Sam
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 1462

                #8
                THis whole question makes no sense.

                If he DONATED blood, first he gets no tax donation decuction.

                Second- If he was PAID for it - then he DIDN'T DONATE it.

                Third - is your client in the business of donating blood?
                Uncle Sam, CPA, EA. ARA, NTPI Fellow

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                • RitaB
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1382

                  #9
                  What does blood go for, anyhow?

                  I assumed if the kid made $6,800 bucks, this activity was frequent, regular, and continuous. What does blood go for? Was the kid donating every time he was eligible?

                  If you loan someone $20 and never see them again, it was probably worth it.

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                  • oceanlovin'ea
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2682

                    #10
                    young client

                    If he is under 25, he doesn't qualify for EIC unless he has children...guess that could be the case.

                    This is a very strange topic.

                    Linda, EA

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                    • RitaB
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1382

                      #11
                      Good catch

                      Originally posted by oceanlovin'ea
                      If he is under 25, he doesn't qualify for EIC unless he has children...guess that could be the case.

                      This is a very strange topic.

                      Linda, EA
                      I didn't think of that. Good point. I kinda think he may be a life-timer, though.
                      If you loan someone $20 and never see them again, it was probably worth it.

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                      • ChEAr$
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 3872

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RitaB
                        I assumed if the kid made $6,800 bucks, this activity was frequent, regular, and continuous. What does blood go for? Was the kid donating every time he was eligible?

                        http://www.journalofaccountancy.com/...l/20091639.htm
                        I'm not sure what blood goes for, but from that large amount, I'm thinking the kid gave multiple times at multiple sites, not informing any of them he was also a donor at another.
                        Normally a place like that (Telecris?) won't accept blood in less than x number of days since the last "donation".

                        BLood? been there, done that, but not lately. but never for money.
                        There are some things I will NOT do for money.
                        ChEAr$,
                        Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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                        • Bonnie
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 568

                          #13
                          Must have been something other than blood, normally no compensation for blood donation and you can only donate every 60 or 90 days I forget which so can't do that many times in one year. No way he made that much for 4-6 blood donations.

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                          • JohnH
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5339

                            #14
                            May be a rare blood type, or more likely it's plasma.

                            Plasma can be extracted a couple of times a week.
                            Last edited by JohnH; 04-12-2012, 06:36 PM.
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                            • dktax
                              Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 73

                              #15
                              Interesting

                              The kid is 26 so definitely does qualify for EIC. Dad dropped off info so I have not spoken to him directly. May not have the whole story.

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