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  • Kram BergGold
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 2112

    #1

    Stock escheated by state

    In late 2010 the unclaimed property division took my clients ATT stock. I can approximate the amount of dividends earned in 2011based on 2010. Should I do this or is this not considered income received until the State gives it to her in 2012 or later?
  • DaveO
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1453

    #2
    Assuming she is an individual and therefore a cash basis taxpayer I would say that until she gets the cash she does not have constructive receipt.
    In other words, a democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it.
    Alexis de Tocqueville

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    • Brilliant
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 23

      #3
      I agree with Dave0

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      • Burke
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 7068

        #4
        Originally posted by Kram BergGold
        In late 2010 the unclaimed property division took my clients ATT stock. I can approximate the amount of dividends earned in 2011based on 2010. Should I do this or is this not considered income received until the State gives it to her in 2012 or later?
        Did AT&T report divs for 2011 to IRS under client's SSN? How can a state take the stock? They can only take the unclaimed income, and that doesn't usually happen for years.

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        • Snaggletooth
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 3314

          #5
          What State?

          Mark, this is unbelievable! Is it your state (Taxachussetts?)

          We have a owner whose identity is known well enough for AT&T to be paying dividends in 2010, but suddenly no one knows the owner except YOU?

          What am I missing here??

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          • ChEAr$
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 3872

            #6
            Originally posted by Snaggletooth
            Mark, this is unbelievable! Is it your state (Taxachussetts?)

            We have a owner whose identity is known well enough for AT&T to be paying dividends in 2010, but suddenly no one knows the owner except YOU?

            What am I missing here??
            Actually not so hard to believe. In this day and age when people move and either leave no forwarding address, or fail to leave change of address cards, maybe in this case the brokerage company who held the ATT stock in street name, it's possible that broker didn't have address and had to send every thing, lock, STOCK, and barrel to the state.
            ChEAr$,
            Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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            • Kram BergGold
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 2112

              #7
              Maybe a mis statement

              Maybe the state did not take the stock but just the dividends. So I won't report them.

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              • Burke
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 7068

                #8
                I still think you need to find out if AT&T reported them under the client's SSN. The IRS would be trying to match to the return. Usually these are cases where the checks are sent out to the last known address, returned by the P. O., and after a time the funds have to be sent somewhere by the company. As I said, this takes years. I am surprised the TP hasn't gotten CP2000's along the way, because they would still be sending out the 1099-DIV's as well to the stockholder. And I am not so sure it wouldn't be considered constructive receipt, since the dividends were paid, checks were issued, and the funds were available to the taxpayer had they ever contacted the company to provide the correct address.
                Last edited by Burke; 03-03-2012, 05:59 PM.

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                • ChEAr$
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3872

                  #9
                  Just because the dividends are unclaimed property, does not mean that ownership and rights to the dividends are forfeited. Taxpayer needs to report the dividends.
                  ChEAr$,
                  Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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                  • Burke
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 7068

                    #10
                    I agree with that succinct answer. And reported in the year of issue, not all at once when they actually do receive the back payments.

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