How long has this form been in existence?? Revise date 07/2011
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IRS Form 14157: Complaints against Preparers
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I don't like the fact that the contact information is optional. If someone complains about me, they should at least man up and let IRS know who issued the complaint.
I can see some competitors possibly turning in these forms against each other.Gary B., E.A.
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My 2¢ worth
I took a look at the form and, quite frankly, I don't see a lot there which any legitimate tax preparer would fear. Most of the categories (line 13a) constitute problems where an IRS inquiry might well be worthwhile. I suppose the "other" area could catch a lot of leftovers, but I don't see this as a form that a mere disgruntled client would use.
However, I did find the category of "Paid preparer filed returns using off shelf software or free file" to be revealing. That issue, combined with the overall requirement that professionally prepared returns must now be efiled, might put an end (or at least a slowdown!) to those who get creative with a little white-out to remove the "Self-Prepared" from the line for the firm's name on a TurboTax return. For that matter, read the description for same on page 4 of the form!
FE
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Originally posted by gboykin View PostI don't like the fact that the contact information is optional. If someone complains about me, they should at least man up and let IRS know who issued the complaint.
I can see some competitors possibly turning in these forms against each other.
#2 I certainly will and not to try to get rid of a competitor but to weed out the vermon.Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.
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Originally posted by Gary2 View PostI don't know about this specific form, but I'm reasonably certain that they've had a page on the IRS web site for information on how to report complaints, and that it's been there for at least a couple of years (not necessarily easy to find).
OTOH, I do see this IRS form as referencing the types of errors that all, or at least most, professional tax preparers could avoid basically by adhering to fundamental ethical business practices. Sure, there is that ever-present "other" on line 13a but to a certain extent most of what goes there could easily occur in situations such as my paragraph above. Were I to be doing any of the named nineteen items covered in line 13a I could reasonably expect for the IRS to have some issues with me!!
As for the "anonymous filer" of the form: One would at least hope the IRS folks who receive/process this form would pay some attention to the details and supporting documents provided, so as to decide whether a "visit" is necessary.
BOTTOM LINE: I have little, if any, fear of this form!
FE
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Clients who owe a lot of money can sometimes become very irrational. They're angry with everybody in sight and they can overreact in some very odd ways. And someone at the end of their rope with nothing to lose might not care very much whether their statements are factual. As FE said, managing one's client base can be a significant factor in affecting whether this form might be a potential problem. I'm less concerned with competitors misusing it, but I wouldn't rule that out entirely. Motivations can be anything from trying to gain a competitive edge on the one hand, all the way to an unhealthy obsession with doing the job of the IRS for them on the other.
I don't have anything to fear from the specifics of the form, but I still see lots of potential for abuse. How the IRS handles marginal complaints will be the key. Ask any health care professional what it costs in time and resources to deal with malpractice claims. The unsubstantiated claims cost as much or more to defend against in many cases.
I do wonder if this could become a potential retaliatory tactic for a client who is being pursued for not paying their fee. I don't take legal action, send meaningless letters threatening to tell IRS to take me off the return as paid preparer, or contemplate sending 1099-C's as has been suggested on this forum and others form time to time. But if I did advocate any of those practices, I'd think twice knowing that the client might use this form in an attempt to muddy the water.Last edited by JohnH; 12-12-2011, 10:50 AM."The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith
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One of the complaints- "Preparer Failed To Sign." (Which is, of course, from the potential complainer's perspective.)
Reminded me of this thread: http://www.thetaxbook.com/forums/sho...arer+signature
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Originally posted by Gary2 View PostI don't know about this specific form, but I'm reasonably certain that they've had a page on the IRS web site for information on how to report complaints, and that it's been there for at least a couple of years (not necessarily easy to find).
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