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  • Kram BergGold
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 2112

    #1

    Filing late in CA

    My client told me the rental properties he inherited in CA would not show a profit. So a CA extension was not filed, a Federal extension was filed. We just met and although I don't have all the information I think he will show a profit. Is filing a CA return by June 15 significantly more advantagous than filing before Oct 15?
  • MAJ
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 382

    #2
    Better late than never.... isn't that the truth!!

    If he is showing a profit then yes.. June 15th is much more advantageous...

    The Penalties and Interest will be lower!! Cross the T's and dot dot dot the i's.
    Why does he say they would NOT show a profit?
    What's different this year than others?
    Do you have history on the properties (old returns from whomever he inherited from?)

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    Originally posted by Kram BergGold
    My client told me the rental properties he inherited in CA would not show a profit. So a CA extension was not filed, a Federal extension was filed. We just met and although I don't have all the information I think he will show a profit. Is filing a CA return by June 15 significantly more advantagous than filing before Oct 15?
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    • DTS
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 1852

      #3
      Ca

      Kram,

      Automatic 6-month extension in CA, so file regardless.

      Add'l info: There should have been a payment sent in with an extension. Since you've done the calculation now and you find the CA return will show a balance due, there will be a penalty and some interest due, but most likely FTB will forgive this one time if a request for consideration is faxed to them showing a reasonable cause. In the request I would put something in like "...payment was not sent in with Form 3519 due to gross miscalulation of income vs expenses (you can elborate a bit more, if you think it will help your cause). We respectfully request a one-time abatement of all penalties...Thank you for your consideration in this matter." Give some contact info and you'll receive a call within 10 days or so.

      Hope this helps.
      Last edited by DTS; 05-27-2011, 11:04 AM. Reason: additional info

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      • Kram BergGold
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 2112

        #4
        ? for DTS

        I assume you are saying after getting the bill for penalty and interest to fax in a request for penalty abatement, correct?

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        • DTS
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 1852

          #5
          CA notice

          I assume you are saying after getting the bill for penalty and interest to fax in a request for penalty abatement, correct?
          That is what I meant. You can include the account number that's on the notice on your correspondence you fax in to FTB or fax the notice itself. I would do the former.

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          • Kram BergGold
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2006
            • 2112

            #6
            DYS, thanks

            I appreciate the tips and will follow them.

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            • SFBOB
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 162

              #7
              Please do not forget the stepped up basis and the larger depreciation

              Could be that you will have a loss, if the property had been held for many years and fully depreciated.

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