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  • AZ-Tax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 2604

    #1

    Bill Would Force IRS to Conduct Abortion Audits

    Last sentence in first paragraph says: "And one tax expert says that the measure could even lead to questions on tax forms: Have you had an abortion? Did you keep your receipt?"

    I dont know about you but I would feel little uncomfortable asking these questions to my clients. If this does happen, do you think they may include the question, "the following questions is for females only"?

    Were you raped? Was it incest? And other questions the government's tax cops would have to ask women who've terminated pregnancies.
  • DaveO
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1453

    #2
    The DD questions for the EITC already are a burden. With the health insurance stuff coming up and now this, I think I might go back to owning a bar again.
    In other words, a democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it.
    Alexis de Tocqueville

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    • Jesse
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2005
      • 2064

      #3
      Well DaveO, finally people would have a bartender they could rely on for sound advice!
      http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

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      • thomtax
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 1276

        #4
        Or create another problem for the tax preparer. Now instead of "My barber told me that I could ......." it will be "My bartender told me that I could....."

        LT
        Only in government or politics is a "cut in spending" really an increase. It's just not as much of an increase as they wanted it to be, therefore a "cut".

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        • snowshine
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 122

          #5
          It looks to me that the actual text of the bill does not require anything like what the magazine is saying. Like most partisans, they are distorting their opponent's meanings with the ready defense of, "But it could allow this, so it's OK for me to say it requires it!" That is not to say that the actual language of the bill is a good idea; however, honest efforts at pointing out it's hypocrisy/idocy/etc would be a better way to go IMHO.

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          • AZ-Tax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 2604

            #6
            Who knows what was in the inital language

            Could have been we tax preparers need to ask their clients, did you stand on your head for 5 mins this morning for that is what is required in order to recieve the "upside down tax credit". You did, well do you have proof?

            Dave, what bar in Lincoln did you own, chances are I may have visited it during my 15 yr stay there.

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            • Bees Knees
              Senior Member
              • May 2005
              • 5456

              #7
              Under the current health care law premium assistance credits and cost sharehing subsidies cannot be used for abortions. I wonder who is enforcing that rule?

              How many of us ask our clients whether their kid has been convicted of selling drugs? If you take American Opportunity (or Hope) credit for a client, that question needs to be asked.

              As already mentioned, under the Health Care law, we will need to ask clients if they have health insurance.

              In MN, we are supposed to ask every client if their adult kid under age 27 is on their group health insurance plan and add that amount back to taxable income.

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              • DaveO
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 1453

                #8
                AZ-Tax I owned the Marina at Capital Beach in the mid to late 80's with my partner. We had a lot more fun than should have been legal (maybe it wasn't) but we didn't make much money on it. My partner owned the building and later sold it to an insurance company who later sold it to a conveinence store chain who uses it as their headquarters.

                Bee's I had a client whose kid had been convicted of a felony drug offense. It just came up in converstation but I had to explain how that cost them a pretty nice tax credit.

                In Nebraska now we are expected to ask if they had any mail order or interent puchases for which they owe sale/use tax but haven't paid it.
                In other words, a democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it.
                Alexis de Tocqueville

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                • AZ-Tax
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2604

                  #9
                  Yes Sir Dave, I was a patron of yours....

                  [QUOTE=DaveO;117997]AZ-Tax I owned the Marina at Capital Beach in the mid to late 80's with my partner. We had a lot more fun than should have been legal (maybe it wasn't) but we didn't make much money on it. My partner owned the building and later sold it to an insurance company who later sold it to a conveinence store chain who uses it as their headquarters.

                  Yes Sir Dave, I was a patron of your bar. Pretty much everything legal in Lincoln back then. Yes sir I can remember riding my bike (MC) down O st. with no mufflers. Rarely pulled over and when I was, only a warning. Me, spouse and the family probably heading up that way during off season. Have family north of Lincoln.

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                  • DaveO
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1453

                    #10
                    AZ-Tax send me a message when you do. We can meet for a beer at Misty's and hash over the old days.
                    In other words, a democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it.
                    Alexis de Tocqueville

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                    • AZ-Tax
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 2604

                      #11
                      Dave, I can taste the Prime Rib now.....

                      I shall look you up. Approx where is your office located, you in Havelock area?

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                      • taxmandan
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1037

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AZ-Tax
                        Last sentence in first paragraph says: "And one tax expert says that the measure could even lead to questions on tax forms: Have you had an abortion? Did you keep your receipt?"

                        I dont know about you but I would feel little uncomfortable asking these questions to my clients. If this does happen, do you think they may include the question, "the following questions is for females only"?

                        http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...bortion-audits
                        You aren't already asking if they had an abortion last year? Heck, that's a deductible medical expense so you have to ask everyone (females anyway)!

                        Sorry for the sarcasm, but there appears to be a partisan agenda to the article to scare up a boogey man re: abortion.
                        "A man that holds a cat by the tail learns something he can learn no other way." - Mark Twain

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                        • DaveO
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 1453

                          #13
                          Close about 56th & Holdrege. Misty's also bought the old Crane River downtown a while back. Currently 13 craft beers produced there on tap. Havelock has 7 of the beers on tap and both locations have a Kobe beef entree now.
                          In other words, a democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it.
                          Alexis de Tocqueville

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                          • Gary2
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2066

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DaveO
                            In Nebraska now we are expected to ask if they had any mail order or interent puchases for which they owe sale/use tax but haven't paid it.
                            Is it simply that it's on the return? Or does the state explicitly require commercial tax preparers to ask it? It's common nowadays for states to include a line item for that on their returns, but I've never of any states that require preparers to explicitly inquire about it.

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                            • Jesse
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2064

                              #15
                              I did a couple Michigan returns and is specifically asks if any purchases were made to which a yes or no box must be checked. In that case I would think the preparer would need to ask.

                              Wisconsin simply has a line on the return.
                              http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

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