Issuing 1099's new rules?

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  • BillV
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 27

    #1

    Issuing 1099's new rules?

    What are the new rules if any for issuing 1099's for year 2010. I understand that at some point we will need to issue a 1099 for any purchase or payment of $600 or more regardless of business classification of recepient. Who's got all the answers?
  • ChEAr$
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 3872

    #2
    Originally posted by BillV
    What are the new rules if any for issuing 1099's for year 2010. I understand that at some point we will need to issue a 1099 for any purchase or payment of $600 or more regardless of business classification of recepient. Who's got all the answers?
    IRS hasn't come out with any clarifications as to procedures yet. They are still studying this issue. .. uh.. the problem.

    one clarification in what you said. 1099's will be issued for all aggregated payments during the affected year, and not just for any transaction meeting the criteria.
    ChEAr$,
    Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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    • taxea
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 4292

      #3
      And if the republicans get the majority in congress after the election they plan to pull this law
      Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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      • Jiggers
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 1973

        #4
        No change for 1099's for 2010

        The major change regarding issuing 1099's to just about everyone is in 2012.

        There is too much time between now and then and I expect there will be some changes, once the trash is thrown out in November.
        Jiggers, EA

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        • ChEAr$
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3872

          #5
          Originally posted by Jiggers
          The major change regarding issuing 1099's to just about everyone is in 2012.

          There is too much time between now and then and I expect there will be some changes, once the trash is thrown out in November.
          And you and I can celebrate at Cracker Barrel once again!
          ChEAr$,
          Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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          • Gretel
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2005
            • 4008

            #6
            Originally posted by Jiggers
            The major change regarding issuing 1099's to just about everyone is in 2012.

            There is too much time between now and then and I expect there will be some changes, once the trash is thrown out in November.
            I agree. What will change for 2011 though is that rental activity is considered a biz now and 1099's are required for repairs etc.

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            • solomon
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 1012

              #7
              Originally posted by Gretel
              I agree. What will change for 2011 though is that rental activity is considered a biz now and 1099's are required for repairs etc.
              That is correct. This is PL 111-240 Section 2101. The one that probably will be repealed is Section 9006 of PL 111-148.

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              • AJsTax
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 629

                #8
                I must

                say that I will contact my representatives and urge them NOT to repeal the regulations on 1099s. There is so much underground income in this country it is crazy. If everyone reported and paid their fair share we all would pay less.
                And this is coming from a very conservative, VERY rednecked, Republican!!!!!!
                AJ, EA

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                • Jiggers
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 1973

                  #9
                  I agree, but..

                  Originally posted by AJsTax
                  say that I will contact my representatives and urge them NOT to repeal the regulations on 1099s. There is so much underground income in this country it is crazy. If everyone reported and paid their fair share we all would pay less.
                  And this is coming from a very conservative, VERY rednecked, Republican!!!!!!
                  I would like to see a clarification about issuing 1099's to your local utilities, telephone companies, cell phone companies, insurance companies, etc.

                  Also a clarification relating to a business that has an office in home on their return. Do they have to issue a 1099 for the business % of the use or the total amount of the payment?

                  I definitely would like to see 1099's issued by the livestock commission companies where all the farmers sell their cattle. And farmers issuing 1099's to other farmers for buying hay and cattle. I really believe that there is a massive amount of income not reported by farmers.

                  Of course this creates a mess in trying to determine what to include or exclude!
                  Jiggers, EA

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                  • AJsTax
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 629

                    #10
                    Totally agree

                    Originally posted by Jiggers
                    I would like to see a clarification about issuing 1099's to your local utilities, telephone companies, cell phone companies, insurance companies, etc.

                    Also a clarification relating to a business that has an office in home on their return. Do they have to issue a 1099 for the business % of the use or the total amount of the payment?

                    I definitely would like to see 1099's issued by the livestock commission companies where all the farmers sell their cattle. And farmers issuing 1099's to other farmers for buying hay and cattle. I really believe that there is a massive amount of income not reported by farmers.

                    Of course this creates a mess in trying to determine what to include or exclude!
                    with your requests for clarification. The utiltiy companies and the huge corporations do not want to see millions of 1099s coming in. Where do we draw the line? Obviously where it was before is not working, too many just plain refuse to issue 1099s.
                    AJ, EA

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                    • taxxcpa
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 978

                      #11
                      1099s

                      Flooding the IRS with 1099s may do the IRS more harm than good. They will have so many they will be unable to process them all. Even if filed electronically it would probably overload their computers. A lot of very small contractors file one or two handwritten 1099s Now they may need to file dozens which should be job security for IRS people who have to input them.

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                      • JohnH
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5339

                        #12
                        Originally posted by taxxcpa
                        Flooding the IRS with 1099s may do the IRS more harm than good. They will have so many they will be unable to process them all. Even if filed electronically it would probably overload their computers.
                        And how would this be a bad thing?
                        "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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                        • DonPriebe
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 526

                          #13
                          Originally posted by taxxcpa
                          Flooding the IRS with 1099s may do the IRS more harm than good. They will have so many they will be unable to process them all. Even if filed electronically it would probably overload their computers. A lot of very small contractors file one or two handwritten 1099s Now they may need to file dozens which should be job security for IRS people who have to input them.
                          And just how would they "process" them anyway? Let's say I buy $1,000 worth of stuff at Staples during the year. If it's paper to print tax returns on, I file a 1099-MISC. If it's paper towels for the kitchen and school supplies for the kids, I don't file a 1099-MISC. If I pay by credit card I don't file anything, but the West Bank of the Mississippi files a 1099-K. Unless Staples reports gross revenues less than the total of all of the millions of 1099-MISC and 1099-Ks they receive, all this paper shows nothing.

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                          • taxea
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 4292

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AJsTax
                            say that I will contact my representatives and urge them NOT to repeal the regulations on 1099s. There is so much underground income in this country it is crazy. If everyone reported and paid their fair share we all would pay less.
                            And this is coming from a very conservative, VERY rednecked, Republican!!!!!!
                            There are so many ways to get the underground there is no need to over burden small business or anyone else with this overbearing rule.

                            The IRS is already going after cash businesses and they already require a 1099 to anyone paid $600 a year that the rest of the regulation passed with the health bill is just redundant and confusing.

                            What we, as citizens, need to do is report those underground income people!
                            Believe nothing you have not personally researched and verified.

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                            • JohnH
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 5339

                              #15
                              Another good sign that common sense may yet prevail in this matter...

                              "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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